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¿El Belgrano como batería costera en Malvinas?
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<blockquote data-quote="fepago" data-source="post: 1049079" data-attributes="member: 13568"><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">23 June 1944: </span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_ps.htm"><u><span style="color: blue">Operation "A-GO" - The Battle of the Philippine Sea:</span></u></a></span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Vice Admiral Kurita's Second Fleet steams about 100 miles ahead of Vice Admiral Ozawa's carriers</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">At 16,400 yards, YAMATO and the other ships execute a turn to port and open fire. YAMATO's main guns, loaded with "Sanshiki-dan" shells, are fired in anger for the first time - but at friendly forces!<strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> Four ZEKEs are damaged. Another ditches</span></strong>. <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">YAMATO may have damaged some of the planes</span></strong>. MUSASHI's lookouts correctly identify the planes and she is the only ship that does not open fire.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">25 October 1944: </span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_sam.htm"><u><span style="color: blue">The Battle off Samar: </span></u></a></span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">0335: San Bernardino Strait. Force A exits the strait and proceeds eastward</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">1040: About thirty 13th Army Air Force Far Eastern Air Force B-24 "Liberators" of the "Long Rangers" based at Morotai attack the Force. Bomb fragments wound Rear Admiral (later Vice Admiral) Koyanagi Tomiji (former CO of KONGO), Chief of Staff, Second Fleet and about 60 others. YAMATO and NAGATO open fire with their main armament using Type 3 <em>sanshikidan</em> shells. Their gun crews claim several bombers shot down. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">13 March 1945: </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Hashirajima. Mistakenly, YAMATO fires on 343rd NAG Kawanishi </span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/n1k-j.htm"><u><span style="color: blue">N1K2-J </span></u></a></span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Shiden Kai "George" fighters on patrol from their base at nearby Matsuyama airfield. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">6 April 1945:</span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_yam.htm"><u><span style="color: blue">Operation TEN-ICHI-GO - The Attack on American Invasion Forces at Okinawa: </span></u></a></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">1235: YAMATO stops zigzagging and increases speed to 24 knots. Her nine 18.1-inch guns firing Sanshikidan beehive shells, twenty-four 127-mm. AA guns and one hundred fifty-two 25-mm AA guns all open fire. The American planes release their bombs and torpedoes and strafe the bridge with machine-gun fire. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">no fueron grandes resultados, 10 aparatos en total, por el fuego combinado de todas las piezas, incluyendo los 460mm , la direccion de tiro japonesa era deficiente y habia muchos norteamericanos que ya conocian el oficio.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Vice Admiral Ito and YAMATO's skipper Captain Aruga and 3,055 of 3,332 crewmen are lost. 276 men are rescued including Rear Admiral Morishita Nobuei, Chief of Staff, Second Fleet (and former YAMATO skipper). Aruga receives a rare double promotion posthumously to Vice Admiral on the request of Admiral Toyoda. Later that day, the battered destroyers ISOKAZE and KASUMI are scuttled and sink. 1,187 crewmen of DesRon 2's light cruiser YAHAGI and the four destroyers are also lost. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The Imperial Japanese Navy ceases to exist as a fighting force. The Americans lose 10 aircraft and 12 crewmen.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">en cambio la bateria antiaerea NIobe alemana atacada por 100 + aviones rusos l</span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ogro derribar mas del 10% de la fuerza atacante, despues del papelon del Bismarck habian aprendido a regular las directoras.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">la directora/computadora antiaerea Ford del Crube era muy superior a cualquier otra de la SGM y permanecio en servicio hasta ser reemplazada en los</span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> 70 en la US NAVY.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">los aviones modernos tienen una desventaja con las barreras antiaereas que es la misma propulsion jet. Cualquier esquirla puede ser catastrofica en los motores, pocos lugares de un avion no contienen un sistema o equipo.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">son mas "de</span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">nsos" que los aviones de la SGM, esa fue la apreciacion que hicieron los Vietnamitas, la otra fue que si los sam-2 y sam3 eran interferidos siempre podian responder al menos con la artilleria de tubo.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">pregunta a THUNDER (off topic ligeramente):</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">entreno</span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> con los cañones de 90mm? yo recuerdo verlos emplazados en las costas de mar del Plata, cuando volvio mi hermano del TOAS fuimos a pescar y estaban con bolsas de arena a la entrada de Mardel.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fepago, post: 1049079, member: 13568"] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]23 June 1944: [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana][URL='http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_ps.htm'][U][COLOR=blue]Operation "A-GO" - The Battle of the Philippine Sea:[/COLOR][/U][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana] Vice Admiral Kurita's Second Fleet steams about 100 miles ahead of Vice Admiral Ozawa's carriers[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]At 16,400 yards, YAMATO and the other ships execute a turn to port and open fire. YAMATO's main guns, loaded with "Sanshiki-dan" shells, are fired in anger for the first time - but at friendly forces![B][FONT=Verdana] Four ZEKEs are damaged. Another ditches[/FONT][/B]. [B][FONT=Verdana]YAMATO may have damaged some of the planes[/FONT][/B]. MUSASHI's lookouts correctly identify the planes and she is the only ship that does not open fire.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]25 October 1944: [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana][URL='http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_sam.htm'][U][COLOR=blue]The Battle off Samar: [/COLOR][/U][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana] 0335: San Bernardino Strait. Force A exits the strait and proceeds eastward[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]1040: About thirty 13th Army Air Force Far Eastern Air Force B-24 "Liberators" of the "Long Rangers" based at Morotai attack the Force. Bomb fragments wound Rear Admiral (later Vice Admiral) Koyanagi Tomiji (former CO of KONGO), Chief of Staff, Second Fleet and about 60 others. YAMATO and NAGATO open fire with their main armament using Type 3 [I]sanshikidan[/I] shells. Their gun crews claim several bombers shot down. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]13 March 1945: Hashirajima. Mistakenly, YAMATO fires on 343rd NAG Kawanishi [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana][URL='http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/n1k-j.htm'][U][COLOR=blue]N1K2-J [/COLOR][/U][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Shiden Kai "George" fighters on patrol from their base at nearby Matsuyama airfield. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]6 April 1945:[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana][URL='http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_yam.htm'][U][COLOR=blue]Operation TEN-ICHI-GO - The Attack on American Invasion Forces at Okinawa: [/COLOR][/U][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]1235: YAMATO stops zigzagging and increases speed to 24 knots. Her nine 18.1-inch guns firing Sanshikidan beehive shells, twenty-four 127-mm. AA guns and one hundred fifty-two 25-mm AA guns all open fire. The American planes release their bombs and torpedoes and strafe the bridge with machine-gun fire. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]no fueron grandes resultados, 10 aparatos en total, por el fuego combinado de todas las piezas, incluyendo los 460mm , la direccion de tiro japonesa era deficiente y habia muchos norteamericanos que ya conocian el oficio.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Vice Admiral Ito and YAMATO's skipper Captain Aruga and 3,055 of 3,332 crewmen are lost. 276 men are rescued including Rear Admiral Morishita Nobuei, Chief of Staff, Second Fleet (and former YAMATO skipper). Aruga receives a rare double promotion posthumously to Vice Admiral on the request of Admiral Toyoda. Later that day, the battered destroyers ISOKAZE and KASUMI are scuttled and sink. 1,187 crewmen of DesRon 2's light cruiser YAHAGI and the four destroyers are also lost. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]The Imperial Japanese Navy ceases to exist as a fighting force. The Americans lose 10 aircraft and 12 crewmen.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]en cambio la bateria antiaerea NIobe alemana atacada por 100 + aviones rusos l[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]ogro derribar mas del 10% de la fuerza atacante, despues del papelon del Bismarck habian aprendido a regular las directoras.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]la directora/computadora antiaerea Ford del Crube era muy superior a cualquier otra de la SGM y permanecio en servicio hasta ser reemplazada en los[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana] 70 en la US NAVY.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]los aviones modernos tienen una desventaja con las barreras antiaereas que es la misma propulsion jet. Cualquier esquirla puede ser catastrofica en los motores, pocos lugares de un avion no contienen un sistema o equipo.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]son mas "de[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]nsos" que los aviones de la SGM, esa fue la apreciacion que hicieron los Vietnamitas, la otra fue que si los sam-2 y sam3 eran interferidos siempre podian responder al menos con la artilleria de tubo.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]pregunta a THUNDER (off topic ligeramente):[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]entreno[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana] con los cañones de 90mm? yo recuerdo verlos emplazados en las costas de mar del Plata, cuando volvio mi hermano del TOAS fuimos a pescar y estaban con bolsas de arena a la entrada de Mardel.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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