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<blockquote data-quote="HernanSCL" data-source="post: 3037871" data-attributes="member: 31027"><p>Si no hay plata para operar es poco probable que exista dinero para fragatas nuevas (>750 millones) o corbetas nuevas (>400 millones c/u).</p><p></p><p>Se podría pedir las Lafayette francesas (con MLU en astillero francés), a crédito.</p><p></p><p>Salen del servicio dos este año, meterlas al refit de 9 meses previo entrega (USD 155 millones cada una si el casco es regalado x 2 = USD 310 millones).</p><p></p><p>Eso como alternativa de puente de bajo riesgo y comprometer las otras tres a su salida (2030) mientras mejora la situación.</p><p></p><p>Fuente:</p><p><em>The EUR400 million (USD465 million) upgrade includes the installation of a KingKlip Mk 2 hull-mounted sonar to provide the three FLFs anti-submarine warfare capabilities. Workalso involves upgrading the frigates' combat systems and optronic surveillance capabilities, as well as reinforcing their structure and stability. The Crotale CN2 point defence missile system is being replaced by two reconditioned Sadral sextruple launchers armed with Mistral infrared-guided very-short-range surface-to-air missiles.</em></p><p></p><p>The DGA is responsible for site project management and Naval Group for industrial project management. Meanwhile, Chantiers de l'Atlantique is overhauling the frigates under the prime contractorship of the Service de Soutien de la Flotte (Fleet Support Service). The work is being conducted at France's naval base in Toulon.</p><p></p><p>The DGA reported that the trials with <em>Courbet</em> <strong>demonstrated the manoeuvrability of the frigate despite an increase in its displacement of over 80 tonnes, confirmed its continued low acoustic signature, and validated the improved performance of the new combat management system.</strong></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/france-upgrades-la-fayette-class-frigates[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Con ello, se lograría una flota de 2 a 5 buques principales diesel-diesel económicos de operar y con capacidades ASW (Kingklip Mk2) y ASuW (MM-40B3) modernas.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://seawaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2115.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/FLF-Courbet-modernization-1024x768.jpeg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Paquete de modernización de bajo riesgo validado y probado</strong></p><p></p><p><em>[SPOILER="Entrenamientos de la primera unidad modernizada"]After a series of exams and individual training sessions, the crew was able to become accustomed to the new equipment and features. Courbet I took an operational training course to certify the ship for future missions. Under the command of the Naval Action Force training unit “Courbet” After a series of exercises, I gradually increased the difficulty level. Following this training sequence, missiles were launched from the new SADRAL launcher, allowing you to test new underwater combat capabilities against real-life submarines.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>This extremely extensive and demanding testing and training period has allowed the frigate to qualify for operation.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Courbet anchored at Toulon Naval Base after the upgrade (note the sadral launcher above the helicopter hangar). </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Commissioned in 1997, Courbet Is the first of three La Fayette classes to benefit from the upgrade program launched in October 2020. A multipurpose combatant with more than 150 sailors, “Courbet” You can perform maritime surveillance, intelligence, special forces, and crisis zone task force missions. It is designed to carry a helicopter and its separation.[/SPOILER]</em>[SPOILER="Entrenamientos de la primera unidad modernizada"]</p><p></p><p>Based in Turon, Courbet is 126 meters long, 15 meters wide and has a displacement of 3,600 tonnes. Five vessels of this type are used by the Navy, all based in Turon.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://worldakkam.com/the-first-upgraded-la-fayette-class-frigate-is-back-in-operation/687478/[/URL]</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Puede ser que por el lado AAW tenga bastante que mejorar, pero tiene el potencial de diseño para ello de mediar las divisas correspondientes por parte del comprador. De no ser así, el sistema SADRAL es un interesante CIWS que permite oponer resistencia a ciertas amenazas muy próximas como misiles rozaolas o helicópteros que se aproximen demasiado</p><p></p><p>Es la única opción racional que veo para la ARA dentro de los retiros de material de los próximos años.</p><p></p><p>Saludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HernanSCL, post: 3037871, member: 31027"] Si no hay plata para operar es poco probable que exista dinero para fragatas nuevas (>750 millones) o corbetas nuevas (>400 millones c/u). Se podría pedir las Lafayette francesas (con MLU en astillero francés), a crédito. Salen del servicio dos este año, meterlas al refit de 9 meses previo entrega (USD 155 millones cada una si el casco es regalado x 2 = USD 310 millones). Eso como alternativa de puente de bajo riesgo y comprometer las otras tres a su salida (2030) mientras mejora la situación. Fuente: [I]The EUR400 million (USD465 million) upgrade includes the installation of a KingKlip Mk 2 hull-mounted sonar to provide the three FLFs anti-submarine warfare capabilities. Workalso involves upgrading the frigates' combat systems and optronic surveillance capabilities, as well as reinforcing their structure and stability. The Crotale CN2 point defence missile system is being replaced by two reconditioned Sadral sextruple launchers armed with Mistral infrared-guided very-short-range surface-to-air missiles.[/I] The DGA is responsible for site project management and Naval Group for industrial project management. Meanwhile, Chantiers de l'Atlantique is overhauling the frigates under the prime contractorship of the Service de Soutien de la Flotte (Fleet Support Service). The work is being conducted at France's naval base in Toulon. The DGA reported that the trials with [I]Courbet[/I] [B]demonstrated the manoeuvrability of the frigate despite an increase in its displacement of over 80 tonnes, confirmed its continued low acoustic signature, and validated the improved performance of the new combat management system.[/B] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/france-upgrades-la-fayette-class-frigates[/URL] Con ello, se lograría una flota de 2 a 5 buques principales diesel-diesel económicos de operar y con capacidades ASW (Kingklip Mk2) y ASuW (MM-40B3) modernas. [IMG]https://seawaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2115.png[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/FLF-Courbet-modernization-1024x768.jpeg[/IMG] [B]Paquete de modernización de bajo riesgo validado y probado[/B] [I][SPOILER="Entrenamientos de la primera unidad modernizada"]After a series of exams and individual training sessions, the crew was able to become accustomed to the new equipment and features. Courbet I took an operational training course to certify the ship for future missions. Under the command of the Naval Action Force training unit “Courbet” After a series of exercises, I gradually increased the difficulty level. Following this training sequence, missiles were launched from the new SADRAL launcher, allowing you to test new underwater combat capabilities against real-life submarines. This extremely extensive and demanding testing and training period has allowed the frigate to qualify for operation. Courbet anchored at Toulon Naval Base after the upgrade (note the sadral launcher above the helicopter hangar). Commissioned in 1997, Courbet Is the first of three La Fayette classes to benefit from the upgrade program launched in October 2020. A multipurpose combatant with more than 150 sailors, “Courbet” You can perform maritime surveillance, intelligence, special forces, and crisis zone task force missions. It is designed to carry a helicopter and its separation.[/SPOILER][/I][SPOILER="Entrenamientos de la primera unidad modernizada"] Based in Turon, Courbet is 126 meters long, 15 meters wide and has a displacement of 3,600 tonnes. Five vessels of this type are used by the Navy, all based in Turon. [URL unfurl="true"]https://worldakkam.com/the-first-upgraded-la-fayette-class-frigate-is-back-in-operation/687478/[/URL] [/SPOILER] Puede ser que por el lado AAW tenga bastante que mejorar, pero tiene el potencial de diseño para ello de mediar las divisas correspondientes por parte del comprador. De no ser así, el sistema SADRAL es un interesante CIWS que permite oponer resistencia a ciertas amenazas muy próximas como misiles rozaolas o helicópteros que se aproximen demasiado Es la única opción racional que veo para la ARA dentro de los retiros de material de los próximos años. Saludos [/QUOTE]
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