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<blockquote data-quote="HernanSCL" data-source="post: 3425636" data-attributes="member: 31027"><p>Hola:</p><p></p><p>Yo descartaría las 2 Karel Doorman y las 2 Leopold I porque llevan planta motriz Rolls Royce.</p><p></p><p>Descartaría las Durand de la Penne por obsolescencia de misiles antiareos (SM-1, ASPIDE 2000) -habría que meter plata adicional-.</p><p></p><p>Brademburgo me parecen ideales pero les están metiendo un montón de plata en la modernización para extender su vida hasta 2035, siendo los principales activos de superficie ASW de Alemania, recibiendo TASS:</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/F123-MLU-Saab.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><em>Selection of the RBS-15 for the Brandenburg-class may in that context seem surprising. However, seeing <a href="https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/07/saab-receives-order-to-modernise-german-navys-brandenburg-class-frigates/"><strong>how Saab is the prime contractor on the F123-modernisation</strong></a>, responsible for integration of both the 9LV CMS and all relevant sensors including the Sea Giraffe 4A and 1X-radar systems plus CEROS 200 fire control equipment, integration of RBS-15 is likely far easier, quicker and cheaper than a respective effort for NSM. (...)</em></p><p></p><p>Furthermore, due to the consistent delays and changes to the German Navy-posture and further budget cuts the ships have already received one modernisation and effective life extension from around 2010 onwards, replacing various obsolete equipment and making changes to the CMS. This effort was to allow keeping F123 in service until at least 2027 to 2030. The second and more comprehensive modernisation now underway will allow keeping the<strong> four F123-hulls in service until at least 2032 to 2035</strong>.</p><p></p><p>As mentioned, this program aims to replace the current radar-sets and CMS, in addition to other wide-ranging measures primarily affecting sensors, electronics and interoperability. The <strong>ships are also scheduled to finally receive a TAS for ASW-duty</strong>. An integration of the new NH-90 helicopters however is unfeasible due to size- and weight-restrictions on the ships. Instead a partial operational supplement of the existing Sea Lynx Mk 88A-helicopters with a yet unspecified drone-solution is reportedly under evaluation. The ships will be designated F123B, once the effort is complete.</p><p></p><p><em>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/10/german-brandenburg-class-frigates-to-receive-rbs-15-mk-3-antiship-missiles/[/URL]</em></p><p></p><p>Las más realistas para el corto plazo: clase <strong>Lafayette</strong>, y su MLU certificado en el paquete.</p><p></p><p>Saludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HernanSCL, post: 3425636, member: 31027"] Hola: Yo descartaría las 2 Karel Doorman y las 2 Leopold I porque llevan planta motriz Rolls Royce. Descartaría las Durand de la Penne por obsolescencia de misiles antiareos (SM-1, ASPIDE 2000) -habría que meter plata adicional-. Brademburgo me parecen ideales pero les están metiendo un montón de plata en la modernización para extender su vida hasta 2035, siendo los principales activos de superficie ASW de Alemania, recibiendo TASS: [IMG]https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/F123-MLU-Saab.jpg[/IMG] [I]Selection of the RBS-15 for the Brandenburg-class may in that context seem surprising. However, seeing [URL='https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/07/saab-receives-order-to-modernise-german-navys-brandenburg-class-frigates/'][B]how Saab is the prime contractor on the F123-modernisation[/B][/URL], responsible for integration of both the 9LV CMS and all relevant sensors including the Sea Giraffe 4A and 1X-radar systems plus CEROS 200 fire control equipment, integration of RBS-15 is likely far easier, quicker and cheaper than a respective effort for NSM. (...)[/I] Furthermore, due to the consistent delays and changes to the German Navy-posture and further budget cuts the ships have already received one modernisation and effective life extension from around 2010 onwards, replacing various obsolete equipment and making changes to the CMS. This effort was to allow keeping F123 in service until at least 2027 to 2030. The second and more comprehensive modernisation now underway will allow keeping the[B] four F123-hulls in service until at least 2032 to 2035[/B]. As mentioned, this program aims to replace the current radar-sets and CMS, in addition to other wide-ranging measures primarily affecting sensors, electronics and interoperability. The [B]ships are also scheduled to finally receive a TAS for ASW-duty[/B]. An integration of the new NH-90 helicopters however is unfeasible due to size- and weight-restrictions on the ships. Instead a partial operational supplement of the existing Sea Lynx Mk 88A-helicopters with a yet unspecified drone-solution is reportedly under evaluation. The ships will be designated F123B, once the effort is complete. [I][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/10/german-brandenburg-class-frigates-to-receive-rbs-15-mk-3-antiship-missiles/[/URL][/I] Las más realistas para el corto plazo: clase [B]Lafayette[/B], y su MLU certificado en el paquete. Saludos [/QUOTE]
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