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<blockquote data-quote="HernanSCL" data-source="post: 3501606" data-attributes="member: 31027"><p>Las 4 Freedom iniciales las dieron de baja sin el arreglo de las cajas reductoras, las 3 posteriores lo instalaron y en las siguientes el arreglo se incorporó desde la construcción.</p><p></p><p>Lo interesante es explorar las 4 Freedom iniciales, pero reparadas (como ayer dijimos, a un costo de 24 millones cada reparación) en modalidad EDA.</p><p></p><h3><em>PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM:</em></h3><p><em>Transfers excess defense equipment to foreign governments or international organizations.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong>Typically used for modernization of partner forces.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Excess defense articles provided to partner nation at a reduced price (based on the condition of the equipment) or as a grant.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Partner nations pay for packing, crating, handling, and transportation (PCH&T), as well as refurbishment if applicable – EDA is “as is, where is”.</strong></em></p><p></p><h3><em>WHO:</em></h3><p><em>The Military Departments identify excess equipment</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Combatant Commands identify possible recipients to MILDEPS</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>DSCA facilitates coordination and approval of requests</em></p><p></p><h3><em>THE EDA PROGRAM AND BULLETIN BOARD:</em></h3><p><em>Defense Security Cooperation Agency is responsible for administering the Department of Defense's Excess Defense Articles (EDA) program.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Working under authorities established in the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 and the Arms Export Control Act, defense articles declared as excess by the Military Departments can be offered to foreign governments or international organizations in support of U. S. national security and foreign policy objectives. <strong>Typically, EDA is transferred to support U. S. allies in their modernization efforts and to assist Latin American</strong> <strong>and Caribbean nations</strong> in their counter-narcotics programs.</em></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.dsca.mil/programs/excess-defense-articles-eda[/URL]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Daewoo (DSME) es un socio sólido y el SIMA técnicamente está creciendo con fuerza (más apoyo político-presupuestario), está bien respaldado, no creo que nada salga mal por ahí.</p><p></p><p>El problema puede venir por otro lado, como dice aeriusmk2 de construir unidades de a una y no en series. Eso significa más tiempo de desarrollo y costo unitario. Pero si hay respaldo político pueden soportarlo y las unidades posteriores irán saliendo más económicas.</p><p></p><p><strong>Además, hay una forma de mitigar el riesgo de construir de a uno, y es que de Corea te manden los bloques armados y que en SIMA se suelde e integre. Mal que mal, aprovechan la escala de lo instalado para la clase DAEGU coreana que ya cuenta con varias unidades en el mar (8 para Corea del Sur)</strong>.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/ROKS_Daegu_%28FFG-818%29.jpg/1024px-ROKS_Daegu_%28FFG-818%29.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Por eso digo que a pesar del posible problema de la escala local, tienen como para mitigar una parte aprovechando la <strong>escala del proveedor </strong>(la última DAEGU fue comisionada en Octubre de 2023, por lo que a 2024/2025 se aprovecha esa capacidad instalada ya sea en DSME o HHI para construir bloques y enviarlos al Perú).</p><p></p><p>E inteligente como lo hacen puesto que aprovecharán la suite coreana de armamentos desarrollados por ellos como el K-SAAM en K-VLS, el SQS-250K TASS, el sonar de casco SQS-240K, el SSM-700K... y todo el resto con K.</p><p></p><p><em>The Daegu class is an improved variant of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incheon-class_frigate"><em>Incheon</em>-class</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigate">frigate</a>. Modifications to the Incheon class include a TB-250K <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towed_array_sonar">towed array sonar</a> system and a 16-cell <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Vertical_Launching_System">Korean Vertical Launching System</a> (K-VLS), that is able to deploy the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-SAAM">K-SAAM</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Sang_Eo">Hong Sang Eo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_missile">anti-submarine missile</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSM-700K_Haeseong">SSM-700K Haeseong</a> tactical <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-attack_missile">land attack</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_missile">cruise missiles</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-diplomat-2">[2]</a></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The hull design is generally based on the Incheon class. As a part of weapon system modifications, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstructure">superstructure</a> has been significantly changed. The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar">hangar</a> and a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_deck">helicopter deck</a> on the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern">stern</a> has been enlarged to support the operation of a 10-ton helicopter.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-Defense_Industry_Daily-3">[3]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-4">[4]</a></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The Daegu class is the first Korean warship equipped with a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_diesel-electric_and_gas">combined diesel-electric or gas</a> (CODLOG) propulsion system. The propulsion system of the ROKN ships have a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_turbine">gas turbine</a> direct drive, and four high speed diesel generators driving two Leonardo DRS permanent magnet electric motors. The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_MT30">Rolls Royce MT30 turbine engine</a> replaces the twin gas turbine layout of the Incheon-class frigates.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-MT30-1">[1]</a></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The Daegu class provides improved <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_warfare">anti-submarine warfare</a> (ASW) capability than the predecessor Incheon class. An improved ASW capability is provided by the Hanwha Systems SQS-250K towed array <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar">sonar</a> and SQS-240K hull-mounted sonar.</em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-ROKS_Daejeon_launch-5"><em>[5]</em></a></p><p></p><h2>Ships in the class</h2> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Name</th><th>Pennant number</th><th>Builder</th><th>Launched</th><th>Commissioned</th><th>Status</th></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Daegu_(FFG-818)">ROKS <em>Daegu</em></a></td><td>FFG-818</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering">DSME</a></td><td>2 June 2016</td><td>6 March 2018</td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Gyeongnam_(FFG-819)">ROKS <em>Gyeongnam</em></a></td><td>FFG-819</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering">DSME</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-6">[6]</a></td><td>21 June 2019<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-7">[7]</a></td><td>4 Jan 2021</td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Seoul_(FFG-821)">ROKS <em>Seoul</em></a></td><td>FFG-821</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries">Hyundai Heavy Industries</a></td><td>11 November 2019</td><td>July 2021</td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Donghae_(FFG-822)">ROKS <em>Donghae</em></a></td><td>FFG-822</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries">Hyundai Heavy Industries</a></td><td>29 April 2020</td><td>10 November 2021</td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Daejeon_(FFG-823)">ROKS <em>Daejeon</em></a></td><td>FFG-823</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering">DSME</a></td><td>3 May 2021<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-8">[8]</a></td><td>27 February 2023</td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td>ROKS <em>Pohang</em></td><td>FFG-825</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering">DSME</a></td><td>8 September 2021</td><td>2023<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-9">[9]</a></td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td>ROKS <em>Cheonan</em></td><td>FFG-826</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries">Hyundai Heavy Industries</a></td><td>9 November 2021<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-10">[10]</a></td><td>19 May 2023<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-11">[11]</a></td><td>Active</td></tr><tr><td>ROKS <em>Chuncheon</em></td><td>FFG-827</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries">Hyundai Heavy Industries</a></td><td>22 March 2022</td><td>24 October 2023<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-12">[12]</a></td><td>Active</td></tr></table><p></p><p>Se arriman a buen árbol y se van nivelando paso a paso.</p><p></p><p>Saludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HernanSCL, post: 3501606, member: 31027"] Las 4 Freedom iniciales las dieron de baja sin el arreglo de las cajas reductoras, las 3 posteriores lo instalaron y en las siguientes el arreglo se incorporó desde la construcción. Lo interesante es explorar las 4 Freedom iniciales, pero reparadas (como ayer dijimos, a un costo de 24 millones cada reparación) en modalidad EDA. [HEADING=2][I]PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM:[/I][/HEADING] [I]Transfers excess defense equipment to foreign governments or international organizations. [B]Typically used for modernization of partner forces. Excess defense articles provided to partner nation at a reduced price (based on the condition of the equipment) or as a grant. Partner nations pay for packing, crating, handling, and transportation (PCH&T), as well as refurbishment if applicable – EDA is “as is, where is”.[/B][/I] [HEADING=2][I]WHO:[/I][/HEADING] [I]The Military Departments identify excess equipment Combatant Commands identify possible recipients to MILDEPS DSCA facilitates coordination and approval of requests[/I] [HEADING=2][I]THE EDA PROGRAM AND BULLETIN BOARD:[/I][/HEADING] [I]Defense Security Cooperation Agency is responsible for administering the Department of Defense's Excess Defense Articles (EDA) program. Working under authorities established in the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 and the Arms Export Control Act, defense articles declared as excess by the Military Departments can be offered to foreign governments or international organizations in support of U. S. national security and foreign policy objectives. [B]Typically, EDA is transferred to support U. S. allies in their modernization efforts and to assist Latin American[/B] [B]and Caribbean nations[/B] in their counter-narcotics programs.[/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.dsca.mil/programs/excess-defense-articles-eda[/URL] Daewoo (DSME) es un socio sólido y el SIMA técnicamente está creciendo con fuerza (más apoyo político-presupuestario), está bien respaldado, no creo que nada salga mal por ahí. El problema puede venir por otro lado, como dice aeriusmk2 de construir unidades de a una y no en series. Eso significa más tiempo de desarrollo y costo unitario. Pero si hay respaldo político pueden soportarlo y las unidades posteriores irán saliendo más económicas. [B]Además, hay una forma de mitigar el riesgo de construir de a uno, y es que de Corea te manden los bloques armados y que en SIMA se suelde e integre. Mal que mal, aprovechan la escala de lo instalado para la clase DAEGU coreana que ya cuenta con varias unidades en el mar (8 para Corea del Sur)[/B]. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/ROKS_Daegu_%28FFG-818%29.jpg/1024px-ROKS_Daegu_%28FFG-818%29.jpg[/IMG] Por eso digo que a pesar del posible problema de la escala local, tienen como para mitigar una parte aprovechando la [B]escala del proveedor [/B](la última DAEGU fue comisionada en Octubre de 2023, por lo que a 2024/2025 se aprovecha esa capacidad instalada ya sea en DSME o HHI para construir bloques y enviarlos al Perú). E inteligente como lo hacen puesto que aprovecharán la suite coreana de armamentos desarrollados por ellos como el K-SAAM en K-VLS, el SQS-250K TASS, el sonar de casco SQS-240K, el SSM-700K... y todo el resto con K. [I]The Daegu class is an improved variant of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incheon-class_frigate'][I]Incheon[/I]-class[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigate']frigate[/URL]. Modifications to the Incheon class include a TB-250K [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towed_array_sonar']towed array sonar[/URL] system and a 16-cell [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Vertical_Launching_System']Korean Vertical Launching System[/URL] (K-VLS), that is able to deploy the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-SAAM']K-SAAM[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Sang_Eo']Hong Sang Eo[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_missile']anti-submarine missile[/URL], and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSM-700K_Haeseong']SSM-700K Haeseong[/URL] tactical [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-attack_missile']land attack[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_missile']cruise missiles[/URL].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-diplomat-2'][2][/URL] The hull design is generally based on the Incheon class. As a part of weapon system modifications, the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstructure']superstructure[/URL] has been significantly changed. The [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar']hangar[/URL] and a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_deck']helicopter deck[/URL] on the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern']stern[/URL] has been enlarged to support the operation of a 10-ton helicopter.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-Defense_Industry_Daily-3'][3][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-4'][4][/URL] The Daegu class is the first Korean warship equipped with a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_diesel-electric_and_gas']combined diesel-electric or gas[/URL] (CODLOG) propulsion system. The propulsion system of the ROKN ships have a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_turbine']gas turbine[/URL] direct drive, and four high speed diesel generators driving two Leonardo DRS permanent magnet electric motors. The [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_MT30']Rolls Royce MT30 turbine engine[/URL] replaces the twin gas turbine layout of the Incheon-class frigates.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-MT30-1'][1][/URL] The Daegu class provides improved [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_warfare']anti-submarine warfare[/URL] (ASW) capability than the predecessor Incheon class. An improved ASW capability is provided by the Hanwha Systems SQS-250K towed array [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar']sonar[/URL] and SQS-240K hull-mounted sonar.[/I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-ROKS_Daejeon_launch-5'][I][5][/I][/URL] [HEADING=1]Ships in the class[/HEADING] [TABLE] [TR] [TH]Name[/TH] [TH]Pennant number[/TH] [TH]Builder[/TH] [TH]Launched[/TH] [TH]Commissioned[/TH] [TH]Status[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Daegu_(FFG-818)']ROKS [I]Daegu[/I][/URL][/TD] [TD]FFG-818[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering']DSME[/URL][/TD] [TD]2 June 2016[/TD] [TD]6 March 2018[/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Gyeongnam_(FFG-819)']ROKS [I]Gyeongnam[/I][/URL][/TD] [TD]FFG-819[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering']DSME[/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-6'][6][/URL][/TD] [TD]21 June 2019[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-7'][7][/URL][/TD] [TD]4 Jan 2021[/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Seoul_(FFG-821)']ROKS [I]Seoul[/I][/URL][/TD] [TD]FFG-821[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries']Hyundai Heavy Industries[/URL][/TD] [TD]11 November 2019[/TD] [TD]July 2021[/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Donghae_(FFG-822)']ROKS [I]Donghae[/I][/URL][/TD] [TD]FFG-822[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries']Hyundai Heavy Industries[/URL][/TD] [TD]29 April 2020[/TD] [TD]10 November 2021[/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Daejeon_(FFG-823)']ROKS [I]Daejeon[/I][/URL][/TD] [TD]FFG-823[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering']DSME[/URL][/TD] [TD]3 May 2021[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-8'][8][/URL][/TD] [TD]27 February 2023[/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]ROKS [I]Pohang[/I][/TD] [TD]FFG-825[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Shipbuilding_%26_Marine_Engineering']DSME[/URL][/TD] [TD]8 September 2021[/TD] [TD]2023[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-9'][9][/URL][/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]ROKS [I]Cheonan[/I][/TD] [TD]FFG-826[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries']Hyundai Heavy Industries[/URL][/TD] [TD]9 November 2021[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-10'][10][/URL][/TD] [TD]19 May 2023[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-11'][11][/URL][/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]ROKS [I]Chuncheon[/I][/TD] [TD]FFG-827[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Heavy_Industries']Hyundai Heavy Industries[/URL][/TD] [TD]22 March 2022[/TD] [TD]24 October 2023[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu-class_frigate#cite_note-12'][12][/URL][/TD] [TD]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Se arriman a buen árbol y se van nivelando paso a paso. Saludos [/QUOTE]
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