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<blockquote data-quote="Daniel1962" data-source="post: 1614960" data-attributes="member: 4365"><p>No voy a decir que leí las 28 páginas del pdf:</p><p><a href="http://www.sigar.mil/pdf/audits/SIGAR-14-84-AR.pdf">http://www.sigar.mil/pdf/audits/SIGAR-14-84-AR.pdf</a></p><p>desde donde salió esta "noticia", pero bué, lo lei bastante, al menos lo lei distinto que el ¿periodista? que publicó la noticia.</p><p>Es un aburridisimo informe de auditoria de la SIGAR (que yo pensé que era cigarro en inglés mal escrito, mirá vos...).</p><p>Copio algunos tramos</p><p>----</p><p>DOD has provided over 747,000 weapons and auxiliary equipmentvalued at approximately <strong>$626 million</strong> to theANSF <strong>since 2004.</strong> Included in these figures are over 465,000 small arms</p><p>— weapons such as rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenade launchers, and shotguns</p><p>-----</p><p>The U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) maintains information on weapons purchased for the ANSF in two primary Information systems: the Security Cooperation Information Portal <strong>(SCIP)</strong> and the Operational Verification of Reliable Logistics Oversight Database <strong>(OVERLORD)</strong>. SCIP is used by DODpersonnel to track the shipment of weapons from the United States, while OVERLORD is used for tracking the receipt of weapons in Afghanistan.</p><p>-----</p><p><strong>Errors and discrepancies often occur because these two systems are not linked to each other and require manual data entry.</strong></p><p>When SIGAR compared the data in the two systems, it found that the databases did not always match;some records were duplicated, andsome records were incomplete</p><p>------</p><p>Of the 474,823 total serial numbers recorded in OVERLORD, 43 percent, or <strong>203,888 weapons, had missing information and/or duplication</strong></p><p>24,520 serial numbers in OVERLORD and 22,806weapon serial numbers in SCIP were repeated two or three times , meaning that there are duplicate records of weapons shipped and received</p><p>OVERLORD contained 50,304 serial numbers with no shipping or receiving dates , and SCIP contained 59,938 serial numbers with no shipping or receiving dates</p><p>------</p><p>SIGAR found that, as of November 2013, more than 112,000 weapons provided to the ANA and ANP exceed requirements in the current Tashkil. In some cases, excess weapons were provided because ANSF requirements changed. For example, the ANA has 83,184 more AK-47s than needed because, prior to 2010, DOD issued both NATO-standard weapons, such as M-16s, and non-standard weapons, such as AK-47s.</p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>O sea que al menos contablemente los norteamericanos tienen un problema... Si después se les pierden fisicamente es otro cantar. Siempre hay alguien o "alguienes" que se benefician con las diferencias contables ¿no?</p><p></p><p>Pero, siempre hay un pero, en NINGUN lado del pdf de la SIGAR dice que perdieron 747.000 armas en Afghanistan (o mi no entendi eso, quizás mi english is not very bueno..)</p><p></p><p>¿Una verdad a medias es una media verdad, es una mentira chiquita o es una operación?</p><p></p><p>A veces está bueno ir a las fuentes de las "noticias", no sé, digo, me parece, es sólo una opinión personal... </p><p></p><p>ContablesSaludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Daniel1962, post: 1614960, member: 4365"] No voy a decir que leí las 28 páginas del pdf: [url]http://www.sigar.mil/pdf/audits/SIGAR-14-84-AR.pdf[/url] desde donde salió esta "noticia", pero bué, lo lei bastante, al menos lo lei distinto que el ¿periodista? que publicó la noticia. Es un aburridisimo informe de auditoria de la SIGAR (que yo pensé que era cigarro en inglés mal escrito, mirá vos...). Copio algunos tramos ---- DOD has provided over 747,000 weapons and auxiliary equipmentvalued at approximately [B]$626 million[/B] to theANSF [B]since 2004.[/B] Included in these figures are over 465,000 small arms — weapons such as rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenade launchers, and shotguns ----- The U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) maintains information on weapons purchased for the ANSF in two primary Information systems: the Security Cooperation Information Portal [B](SCIP)[/B] and the Operational Verification of Reliable Logistics Oversight Database [B](OVERLORD)[/B]. SCIP is used by DODpersonnel to track the shipment of weapons from the United States, while OVERLORD is used for tracking the receipt of weapons in Afghanistan. ----- [B]Errors and discrepancies often occur because these two systems are not linked to each other and require manual data entry.[/B] When SIGAR compared the data in the two systems, it found that the databases did not always match;some records were duplicated, andsome records were incomplete ------ Of the 474,823 total serial numbers recorded in OVERLORD, 43 percent, or [B]203,888 weapons, had missing information and/or duplication[/B] 24,520 serial numbers in OVERLORD and 22,806weapon serial numbers in SCIP were repeated two or three times , meaning that there are duplicate records of weapons shipped and received OVERLORD contained 50,304 serial numbers with no shipping or receiving dates , and SCIP contained 59,938 serial numbers with no shipping or receiving dates ------ SIGAR found that, as of November 2013, more than 112,000 weapons provided to the ANA and ANP exceed requirements in the current Tashkil. In some cases, excess weapons were provided because ANSF requirements changed. For example, the ANA has 83,184 more AK-47s than needed because, prior to 2010, DOD issued both NATO-standard weapons, such as M-16s, and non-standard weapons, such as AK-47s. ----- O sea que al menos contablemente los norteamericanos tienen un problema... Si después se les pierden fisicamente es otro cantar. Siempre hay alguien o "alguienes" que se benefician con las diferencias contables ¿no? Pero, siempre hay un pero, en NINGUN lado del pdf de la SIGAR dice que perdieron 747.000 armas en Afghanistan (o mi no entendi eso, quizás mi english is not very bueno..) ¿Una verdad a medias es una media verdad, es una mentira chiquita o es una operación? A veces está bueno ir a las fuentes de las "noticias", no sé, digo, me parece, es sólo una opinión personal... ContablesSaludos [/QUOTE]
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