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El Ataque al Portaaviones HMS Invencible
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<blockquote data-quote="Nito" data-source="post: 1090135" data-attributes="member: 28973"><p>Nicholas Lutwyche (Royal Navy) "... San Luis was operational all through the war. Detected several times but due to the topography of the relatively shallow waters around the F.1 that made air launched torpedoes less effective, remained unscathed. Fortunately for the UK forces this submarine had an error in its torpedo fire control system from build in Germany that put in a permanent offset that the crew were not aware of. Had the submarine gone through something like a Portland workup prior to deploying the defect would have been found and corrected. It fired torpedoes at 3 or 4 British warships including one that passed close to Invincible. Invincible ships' company were told to say nothing about this as the RN would see its anti-submarine warfare reputation discredited by this incident..."</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Nicholas</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Lutwyche (Marina Real) "::: El</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">San</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Luis</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">estuvo en funcionamiento</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">durante toda la guerra</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Detectado</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">en varias ocasiones</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">, pero</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">debido a la topografía</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">de las aguas</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">relativamente poco profundas</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">alrededor de la</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">F.1, esto hizo</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">que sus torpedos sean</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">menos eficaces</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">. </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Afortunadamente para las fuerzas</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">del Reino Unido</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">este submarino</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">tenía</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">un error en</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">su sistema de</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">control de fuego</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">de torpedos</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">de</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">construcción</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">en Alemania</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">que originó problemas</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">que la tripulación no </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">tenía conocimiento.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Si el</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">submarino hubiera</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">pasado por</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">una serie de análisis</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">en Portland,</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">el defecto</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> se hubiera</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> encontrado y</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">corregido.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Se</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">dispararon</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">torpedos en</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">3 o 4</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">barcos de guerra</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">británicos, entre ellos</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">uno que</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">pasó cerca de la</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Invencible</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">Compañía de</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">barcos</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">invencible "</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">se les dijo que</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">no dicen nada sobre</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">esto como el</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">RN</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">a ver</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">su</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">reputación</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">anti-submarinos</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">de guerra</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">desacreditado</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 16px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #333333">por este incidente...."</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nito, post: 1090135, member: 28973"] Nicholas Lutwyche (Royal Navy) "... San Luis was operational all through the war. Detected several times but due to the topography of the relatively shallow waters around the F.1 that made air launched torpedoes less effective, remained unscathed. Fortunately for the UK forces this submarine had an error in its torpedo fire control system from build in Germany that put in a permanent offset that the crew were not aware of. Had the submarine gone through something like a Portland workup prior to deploying the defect would have been found and corrected. It fired torpedoes at 3 or 4 British warships including one that passed close to Invincible. Invincible ships' company were told to say nothing about this as the RN would see its anti-submarine warfare reputation discredited by this incident..." [SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Nicholas[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Lutwyche (Marina Real) "::: El[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]San[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Luis[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]estuvo en funcionamiento[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]durante toda la guerra[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333].[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Detectado[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]en varias ocasiones[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333], pero[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]debido a la topografía[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]de las aguas[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]relativamente poco profundas[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]alrededor de la[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]F.1, esto hizo[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]que sus torpedos sean[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]menos eficaces[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Afortunadamente para las fuerzas[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]del Reino Unido[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]este submarino[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]tenía[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]un error en[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]su sistema de[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]control de fuego[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]de torpedos[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]de[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]construcción[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]en Alemania[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]que originó problemas[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]que la tripulación no [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]tenía conocimiento.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Si el[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]submarino hubiera[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]pasado por[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]una serie de análisis[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]en Portland,[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]el defecto[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] se hubiera[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] encontrado y[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]corregido.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Se[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]dispararon[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]torpedos en[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]3 o 4[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]barcos de guerra[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]británicos, entre ellos[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]uno que[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]pasó cerca de la[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Invencible[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333].[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]Compañía de[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]barcos[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]invencible "[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]se les dijo que[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]no dicen nada sobre[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]esto como el[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]RN[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]a ver[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]su[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]reputación[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]anti-submarinos[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]de guerra[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]desacreditado[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][FONT=arial][COLOR=#333333]por este incidente...."[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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