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<blockquote data-quote="paulo" data-source="post: 851613" data-attributes="member: 5327"><p>More ATLC Rumors…</p><p>Uncategorized</p><p></p><p>According to a reliable French blog, RAF typhoons, Dassault Rafales and LMT F-22s did indeed face off on several occasions during last month’s ATLC in the UAE. As we are still a<img src="https://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/expressifs/sablierr.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="waiting" title="Espera waiting" data-shortname="waiting" /> for the sacrament of confirmation about this news, the website has chosen to selectively highlight very positive events for Rafales, as apparently reported by an AdA pilot.</p><p></p><p>- Rafale vs Typhoon: several engagements took place. Of those reported by the website, it’s 7-1 for Rafale, with degraded AA weaponry.</p><p></p><p>- Rafale vs F-22: Furballs, and in visual range only. Rafale went reportedly only once on the wrong side of F-22’s gunsight. Again, we do not know how many times, RoEs, etc…</p><p></p><p>- Rafales also reportedly performed SEAD missions and were able to detect missile sites that had not been detected by F-16CJs.</p><p></p><p>- The Rafale famed OSF was able to “silently” detect targets at up to 23 NM.</p><p></p><p>- Finally, another Rafale demonstrated its multirole capabilities by simulating the launch of 6 Sagem AASM on as many targets and firing 3 MICA AA missiles within one minute. The website also reports that the backseater that day was an Emirati pilot.</p><p></p><p>So, once we carefully qualify the source, and take into account the selectivity of the information presented in this case, it nevertheless remains a very impressive demonstration of Rafales’ capabilities in a fairly realistic environment. Now let us wait for the other side of the story to get the full picture.</p><p></p><p>G2 Solutions @ December 17, 2009</p><p></p><p><a href="http://g2globalsolutions.com/review/?p=3114">http://g2globalsolutions.com/review/?p=3114</a></p><p>.....................................................................................................</p><p></p><p>"Full house" for the Rafale, during exercises in the UAE</p><p></p><p>The participation of six combat aircraft Rafale F3 to the recent Air Tactical Leadership Course (DPAC) held in United Arab Emirates from November 15 to December 9 was a "total success". "We scored full marks" ensures Lt. Colonel Fabrice Grandclaudon, commander of the squadron 1 / 7 Provence (Saint-Dizier).</p><p></p><p>The participation in this major international exercise was very important for France while negotiations for the sale of 60 Rafale to UAE continues. Clearly, a good point was marked by the French with their UAE colleagues. All the more so the availability of Rafale has been "exemplary": They were able to participate in the exercises for two patrols of four aircraft per day from the base of Al Dhafra</p><p></p><p>The "plateau" for this ATLP meeting was impressive : F-16 C/D Block 60 and Mirage 2000-9 (UAE), F-16 MLU (Jordan), F-7 [a modernized version of the MiG-21] (Pakistan ) Typhoon [Eurofighter] (United Kingdom) and F-16 CJ and F-22 (USA). With AWACS and tankers. The exercise is to simulate important raids with forty aircrafts in "realistic missions depicting a high intensity conflict". Aircrafts must face air and ground opposition.</p><p></p><p>In terms of air combat, its frontal area optronics (OSF) has enabled the Rafale to visually identify targets up to 30/40 kilometers, while identifying habitual air defense is between three and five kilometers. In terms of electronic warfare, Rafale have detected ground-air threats that the US F-16 CJ ., which is the main purpose, had not seen. A Rafale was able to simulate the firing of six ammunition on 6 different targets (programmed) at distances between 20 to 40 kilometers, then fired three missiles air-air Mica, all in a minute , testifying the versatility of the aircraft.</p><p></p><p>In air to air fighting, the Rafale has "put a thumping" to the Typhoons from the Royal Air Force, assure the Lieutenant Colonel Grandclaudon.In degraded version, four against four, the Rafale has made scores of 4 to 0 and 3 to 0.</p><p></p><p>The French fighter aircraft also rubbed the F-22, the most modern fighter of the USAF. During a meeting, they were confronted six times, the F-22 putting only a single shot on goal.</p><p></p><p>Traducion del mp.net:yonofui:</p><p></p><p>En lo original, aca</p><p></p><p><a href="http://secretdefense.blogs.liberation.fr/defense/2009/12/carton-plein-pour-le-rafale-lors-dexercices-aux-emirats.html">http://secretdefense.blogs.liberation.fr/defense/2009/12/carton-plein-pour-le-rafale-lors-dexercices-aux-emirats.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paulo, post: 851613, member: 5327"] More ATLC Rumors… Uncategorized According to a reliable French blog, RAF typhoons, Dassault Rafales and LMT F-22s did indeed face off on several occasions during last month’s ATLC in the UAE. As we are still awaiting for the sacrament of confirmation about this news, the website has chosen to selectively highlight very positive events for Rafales, as apparently reported by an AdA pilot. - Rafale vs Typhoon: several engagements took place. Of those reported by the website, it’s 7-1 for Rafale, with degraded AA weaponry. - Rafale vs F-22: Furballs, and in visual range only. Rafale went reportedly only once on the wrong side of F-22’s gunsight. Again, we do not know how many times, RoEs, etc… - Rafales also reportedly performed SEAD missions and were able to detect missile sites that had not been detected by F-16CJs. - The Rafale famed OSF was able to “silently” detect targets at up to 23 NM. - Finally, another Rafale demonstrated its multirole capabilities by simulating the launch of 6 Sagem AASM on as many targets and firing 3 MICA AA missiles within one minute. The website also reports that the backseater that day was an Emirati pilot. So, once we carefully qualify the source, and take into account the selectivity of the information presented in this case, it nevertheless remains a very impressive demonstration of Rafales’ capabilities in a fairly realistic environment. Now let us wait for the other side of the story to get the full picture. G2 Solutions @ December 17, 2009 [url]http://g2globalsolutions.com/review/?p=3114[/url] ..................................................................................................... "Full house" for the Rafale, during exercises in the UAE The participation of six combat aircraft Rafale F3 to the recent Air Tactical Leadership Course (DPAC) held in United Arab Emirates from November 15 to December 9 was a "total success". "We scored full marks" ensures Lt. Colonel Fabrice Grandclaudon, commander of the squadron 1 / 7 Provence (Saint-Dizier). The participation in this major international exercise was very important for France while negotiations for the sale of 60 Rafale to UAE continues. Clearly, a good point was marked by the French with their UAE colleagues. All the more so the availability of Rafale has been "exemplary": They were able to participate in the exercises for two patrols of four aircraft per day from the base of Al Dhafra The "plateau" for this ATLP meeting was impressive : F-16 C/D Block 60 and Mirage 2000-9 (UAE), F-16 MLU (Jordan), F-7 [a modernized version of the MiG-21] (Pakistan ) Typhoon [Eurofighter] (United Kingdom) and F-16 CJ and F-22 (USA). With AWACS and tankers. The exercise is to simulate important raids with forty aircrafts in "realistic missions depicting a high intensity conflict". Aircrafts must face air and ground opposition. In terms of air combat, its frontal area optronics (OSF) has enabled the Rafale to visually identify targets up to 30/40 kilometers, while identifying habitual air defense is between three and five kilometers. In terms of electronic warfare, Rafale have detected ground-air threats that the US F-16 CJ ., which is the main purpose, had not seen. A Rafale was able to simulate the firing of six ammunition on 6 different targets (programmed) at distances between 20 to 40 kilometers, then fired three missiles air-air Mica, all in a minute , testifying the versatility of the aircraft. In air to air fighting, the Rafale has "put a thumping" to the Typhoons from the Royal Air Force, assure the Lieutenant Colonel Grandclaudon.In degraded version, four against four, the Rafale has made scores of 4 to 0 and 3 to 0. The French fighter aircraft also rubbed the F-22, the most modern fighter of the USAF. During a meeting, they were confronted six times, the F-22 putting only a single shot on goal. Traducion del mp.net:yonofui: En lo original, aca [url]http://secretdefense.blogs.liberation.fr/defense/2009/12/carton-plein-pour-le-rafale-lors-dexercices-aux-emirats.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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