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<blockquote data-quote="Raymund" data-source="post: 606256" data-attributes="member: 1967"><p>Noticia exclusiva del proTory-conservador/patriotico dailytelegraph...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/3131155/Exclusive-Cash-strapped-Navy-cuts-destroyer-fleet.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/3131155/Exclusive-Cash-strapped-Navy-cuts-destroyer-fleet.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>la RN tiene tan solo 5 buques para defensa aerea y proteccion de ataques de misiles de aviones o buques.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Mientras paises como China, India e Iran invierten abultadamente en armas antibuqes.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Tres destructors tipo 42, Exeter, Nottingham y Southampton han sido estacionados (aparcados) en la base de Portsmouth en estado de preparacion reducida. dos años antes de su programada baja.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Veteranos de Malvinas ( ingleses) estan muy enojados luego que el Exeter , el ultimo de aquella campaña , que derribara varios aviones argentinos le fue negado entrar a puerto con el banderin de guerra (paying-off pennant) luego de su ultima mision.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>La flota britanica de destructores y fragatas ha sido reducida de 35 a 22 en la ultima decada a pesar de pronesas del gobierno qu eno bajaria de 25.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Pasaran unos 2 años antes que la primer de las 6 destructoes de ultima generacion tipo 45 entre en servicio, dejando una brecha en las defensas.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>las presiones sobre la Pirate Navy son enormes con recortes del 20% para la proxima decada redcuciendo el presupuesto de construccion naval en 4 billones de libras esterlinas llebandolo a 14 billones.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Oficiales de alto rango le dijeron a este diario que la nacion esta tomando alto riesgo en la proteccion de grupo de portaaviones y flotillas y aciso al gobierno de descuidar la flota que proteje el 90 % del comercio de importacion pirata.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Mando al tacho la proteccion aerea de los See Harrriers que hace 2 años se desbando y al menos 2 ,dest. Tipo 42 fueron enviados en maniobras con sus proteccion aerea de <strong>misiles seadart desactivados</strong>.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Liam Fox aciso al gobierno de querer "castrar" a la RN amarrando los buques en puerto.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Es un precio inaceptable de pagar por la imprevison del gobierno en epocas de aumentos del trafico de drogas armas y personas , ademas de pirateria ( autocritica ???) como asi tambien por las misiones en Irak y Afgansitan.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Richard Scott dijo que la RN estaba tomadno riesgo tras riesgo descuidando sus Sdram anti aereos y antisubmarinos.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>La flota de destrucores tipo 42 se fue desvaneciendo sin que nadie lo notara. hemos perdido un tercio de la flota en la última decada, la pregunta es hasta cuando ?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Exeter y Southhampton deberan decomisarse en 2009, y el Nottingham que fue severamente dañada en 2002 en Australia luego de colisionar con una roca le toca en 2010. Pero es improbable que zarpen de puerto de nuevo.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong>A pesar de los recortes la Marina dijo que continua llevando a cabo operaciones secretas de vigilancia contra ciertos paises que no se puede informar </strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>A pesar de duras negativs del MoD el Daily Telegraph informo que la Royal Navy arriesga perder la mitad de su flota.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>UN vocero naval dijo que estos buques permaneceran disponibles para operaciones con el preaviso adecuado. y aseguramos contar con suficiente fuerzas para confrontar las amenaza percibidas.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>COMO SIEMRPE LOS BRITS QUEJANDOSE DE LLENO , AUNQUE EL ESCENARIO TIENDE A PARECERSE UN POCO AL DE LA ROYAL NAVY EN 1981.:yonofui:</strong></p><p><strong>Saludos, Regardos</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Fleet now has just five air defence warships left to protect vessels missile or aircraft attack at a time when other nations such as China, India and Iran are investing heavily in anti-ship warfare. </p><p></p><p>Three Type 42 destroyers – Exeter, Nottingham and Southampton – have been "parked up" in Portsmouth at "reduced readiness" up to two years before they were due to be decommissioned. </p><p></p><p>Malvinas War veterans are particularly angry after Exeter, the last serving operational ship from the campaign in which it shot down several Argentine fighters, was refused permission to fly a paying-off pennant when it entered harbour after its last mission. </p><p></p><p>Britain's force of destroyers and frigates has now been reduced from 35 to 22 in the last decade despite government promises it would not slip below 25. </p><p></p><p>It will be another two years before the first of six of the highly sophisticated Type 45 destroyers can be deployed on operations leaving a "gaping hole" in defences. </p><p></p><p>Pressures on the Navy's budget are immense with cuts of 20 per cent predicted in the next decade reducing the ship building budget to by £4 billion to £14 billion. </p><p></p><p>Senior Navy commanders have told The Daily Telegraph that the nation is taking "serious risks" in protecting carrier groups or amphibious flotillas and have accused the Government of neglecting the Fleet that protects the 90 per cent of Britain's imported trade. </p><p></p><p>It has already ditched the excellent air protection offered by Sea Harriers which were disbanded two years ago and at least two Type 42s have gone on operations with their advanced Sea Dart air defence missiles disabled to save cash. </p><p></p><p>Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, said the Government was attempting to "castrate the Navy" by tying up ships in dock. </p><p></p><p>"This is an unacceptable price to pay for the Government's failure to plan properly at a time when we facing increasing demands to intercept drugs, arms, people smuggling, pirates as well as conduct operations in Iraq and Afghanistan." </p><p></p><p>Richard Scott, Editor of Jane's Navy International, said the Navy was taking "risk on risk" with its neglect of anti-air and anti-submarine warfare. </p><p></p><p>"Type 42 destroyers have crept over horizon without anyone noticing. We have lost a third of the fleet in the last 10 years. The question remains is where's it all going to end up?" </p><p></p><p>With the Armed Forces so overstretched the Navy has been forced to provide sailors and Royal Marines to fight in land-locked Afghanistan where it will make up half the force of 8,000 British troops for the next six months. The deployment has used up valuable training time and manpower. </p><p></p><p>Exeter and Southampton are due to retire in 2009, with Nottingham, which was severely damaged after hitting a rock off Australia in 2002, scheduled to decommission in 2010. But they are unlikely to leave harbour again. </p><p></p><p>Despite the cuts Navy officers have indicated that the Navy continues to carry out secret surveillance operations against certain countries that cannot be reported. </p><p></p><p>"We are completely stuffed in terms of air defence and we are taking a hell of a risk with the sufficient resources to do the job properly," a Navy commander said. </p><p></p><p>"But the Navy has done some incredible things against certain countries in last few weeks that we all should be proud of. </p><p></p><p>"But these types of skills are so precious that we cannot afford to diminish them any further." </p><p></p><p>Despite vehement Ministry of Defence denials The Daily Telegraph reported last year that the Navy faced losing half its fleet. </p><p></p><p>A Navy spokesman said the ships would remain "available for operations with the appropriate notice, if required". </p><p></p><p>"We ensure we have sufficient forces ready to meet the perceived threats," he added.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raymund, post: 606256, member: 1967"] Noticia exclusiva del proTory-conservador/patriotico dailytelegraph... [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/3131155/Exclusive-Cash-strapped-Navy-cuts-destroyer-fleet.html[/url] [I]la RN tiene tan solo 5 buques para defensa aerea y proteccion de ataques de misiles de aviones o buques. Mientras paises como China, India e Iran invierten abultadamente en armas antibuqes. Tres destructors tipo 42, Exeter, Nottingham y Southampton han sido estacionados (aparcados) en la base de Portsmouth en estado de preparacion reducida. dos años antes de su programada baja. Veteranos de Malvinas ( ingleses) estan muy enojados luego que el Exeter , el ultimo de aquella campaña , que derribara varios aviones argentinos le fue negado entrar a puerto con el banderin de guerra (paying-off pennant) luego de su ultima mision. La flota britanica de destructores y fragatas ha sido reducida de 35 a 22 en la ultima decada a pesar de pronesas del gobierno qu eno bajaria de 25. Pasaran unos 2 años antes que la primer de las 6 destructoes de ultima generacion tipo 45 entre en servicio, dejando una brecha en las defensas. las presiones sobre la Pirate Navy son enormes con recortes del 20% para la proxima decada redcuciendo el presupuesto de construccion naval en 4 billones de libras esterlinas llebandolo a 14 billones. Oficiales de alto rango le dijeron a este diario que la nacion esta tomando alto riesgo en la proteccion de grupo de portaaviones y flotillas y aciso al gobierno de descuidar la flota que proteje el 90 % del comercio de importacion pirata. Mando al tacho la proteccion aerea de los See Harrriers que hace 2 años se desbando y al menos 2 ,dest. Tipo 42 fueron enviados en maniobras con sus proteccion aerea de [B]misiles seadart desactivados[/B]. Liam Fox aciso al gobierno de querer "castrar" a la RN amarrando los buques en puerto. Es un precio inaceptable de pagar por la imprevison del gobierno en epocas de aumentos del trafico de drogas armas y personas , ademas de pirateria ( autocritica ???) como asi tambien por las misiones en Irak y Afgansitan. Richard Scott dijo que la RN estaba tomadno riesgo tras riesgo descuidando sus Sdram anti aereos y antisubmarinos. La flota de destrucores tipo 42 se fue desvaneciendo sin que nadie lo notara. hemos perdido un tercio de la flota en la última decada, la pregunta es hasta cuando ? Exeter y Southhampton deberan decomisarse en 2009, y el Nottingham que fue severamente dañada en 2002 en Australia luego de colisionar con una roca le toca en 2010. Pero es improbable que zarpen de puerto de nuevo. [B]A pesar de los recortes la Marina dijo que continua llevando a cabo operaciones secretas de vigilancia contra ciertos paises que no se puede informar [/B] A pesar de duras negativs del MoD el Daily Telegraph informo que la Royal Navy arriesga perder la mitad de su flota. UN vocero naval dijo que estos buques permaneceran disponibles para operaciones con el preaviso adecuado. y aseguramos contar con suficiente fuerzas para confrontar las amenaza percibidas.[/I] [B]COMO SIEMRPE LOS BRITS QUEJANDOSE DE LLENO , AUNQUE EL ESCENARIO TIENDE A PARECERSE UN POCO AL DE LA ROYAL NAVY EN 1981.:yonofui: Saludos, Regardos[/B] The Fleet now has just five air defence warships left to protect vessels missile or aircraft attack at a time when other nations such as China, India and Iran are investing heavily in anti-ship warfare. Three Type 42 destroyers – Exeter, Nottingham and Southampton – have been "parked up" in Portsmouth at "reduced readiness" up to two years before they were due to be decommissioned. Malvinas War veterans are particularly angry after Exeter, the last serving operational ship from the campaign in which it shot down several Argentine fighters, was refused permission to fly a paying-off pennant when it entered harbour after its last mission. Britain's force of destroyers and frigates has now been reduced from 35 to 22 in the last decade despite government promises it would not slip below 25. It will be another two years before the first of six of the highly sophisticated Type 45 destroyers can be deployed on operations leaving a "gaping hole" in defences. Pressures on the Navy's budget are immense with cuts of 20 per cent predicted in the next decade reducing the ship building budget to by £4 billion to £14 billion. Senior Navy commanders have told The Daily Telegraph that the nation is taking "serious risks" in protecting carrier groups or amphibious flotillas and have accused the Government of neglecting the Fleet that protects the 90 per cent of Britain's imported trade. It has already ditched the excellent air protection offered by Sea Harriers which were disbanded two years ago and at least two Type 42s have gone on operations with their advanced Sea Dart air defence missiles disabled to save cash. Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, said the Government was attempting to "castrate the Navy" by tying up ships in dock. "This is an unacceptable price to pay for the Government's failure to plan properly at a time when we facing increasing demands to intercept drugs, arms, people smuggling, pirates as well as conduct operations in Iraq and Afghanistan." Richard Scott, Editor of Jane's Navy International, said the Navy was taking "risk on risk" with its neglect of anti-air and anti-submarine warfare. "Type 42 destroyers have crept over horizon without anyone noticing. We have lost a third of the fleet in the last 10 years. The question remains is where's it all going to end up?" With the Armed Forces so overstretched the Navy has been forced to provide sailors and Royal Marines to fight in land-locked Afghanistan where it will make up half the force of 8,000 British troops for the next six months. The deployment has used up valuable training time and manpower. Exeter and Southampton are due to retire in 2009, with Nottingham, which was severely damaged after hitting a rock off Australia in 2002, scheduled to decommission in 2010. But they are unlikely to leave harbour again. Despite the cuts Navy officers have indicated that the Navy continues to carry out secret surveillance operations against certain countries that cannot be reported. "We are completely stuffed in terms of air defence and we are taking a hell of a risk with the sufficient resources to do the job properly," a Navy commander said. "But the Navy has done some incredible things against certain countries in last few weeks that we all should be proud of. "But these types of skills are so precious that we cannot afford to diminish them any further." Despite vehement Ministry of Defence denials The Daily Telegraph reported last year that the Navy faced losing half its fleet. A Navy spokesman said the ships would remain "available for operations with the appropriate notice, if required". "We ensure we have sufficient forces ready to meet the perceived threats," he added. [/QUOTE]
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