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<blockquote data-quote="Shadow" data-source="post: 616839" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>Muy fiable testigo anónimo, parece que no comprendes, ya que das por sentado que una Corte Internacional que atiende litigios entre Estados es igual a un tribunal interno de un país que atiende un caso de divorcio entre particulares donde el juez es un tercero imparcial y neutral.</p><p></p><p>Ya que para usted la cuestión de la nacionalidad de los jueces no es trascendente, abría que preguntarse ¿Por que el mismo Estatuto de la Corte Internacional de Justicia limita a sus miembros en razón de su procedencia y coloca un elevado número de jueces en el tribunal?.</p><p></p><p>¿Quieres pruebas? (aunque nunca nos das ninguna) tómese la molestia de revisar el voto del juez Sir Robert Jennings en el caso Nicaragua contra Estados Unidos, porque se observa que obviamente no lo leíste.</p><p></p><p><em>Rejects the justification of collective self-defence maintained by the United States of America in connection with the military and paramilitary activities in and against Nicaragua the subject of this case</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America, by training, arming, equipping, financing and supplying the contra forces or otherwise encouraging, supporting and aiding military and paramilitary activities in and against Nicaragua, has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligation under customary international law not to intervene in the affairs of another State;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America, by certain attacks on Nicaraguan territory in 1983-1984, namely attacks on Puerto Sandino on 13 September and 14 October 1983, an attack on Corinto on 10 October 1983; an attack on Potosi Naval Base on 4/5 January 1984, an attack on San Juan del Sur on 7 March 1984; attacks on patrol boats at Puerto Sandino on 28 and 30 March 1984; and an attack on San Juan del Norte on 9 April 1984; and further by those acts of intervention referred to in subparagraph (3) hereof which involve the use of force, has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligation under customary international law not to use force against another State;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America, by directing or authorizing over Rights of Nicaraguan territory, and by the acts imputable to the United States referred to in subparagraph (4) hereof, has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligation under customary international law not to violate the sovereignty of another State;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that, by laying mines in the internal or territorial waters of the Republic of Nicaragua during the first months of 1984, the United States of America has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State, not to intervene in its affairs, not to violate its sovereignty and not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America, by the attacks on Nicaraguan territory referred to in subparagraph (4) hereof, and by declaring a general embargo on trade with Nicaragua on 1 May 1985, has committed acts calculated to deprive of its object and purpose the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America, by the attacks on Nicaraguan territory referred to in subparagraph (4) hereof, and by declaring a general embargo on trade with Nicaragua on 1 May 1985, has acted in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America is under a duty immediately to cease and to refrain from all such acts as may constitute breaches of the foregoing legal obligations;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Decides that the United States of America is under an obligation to make reparation to the Republic of Nicaragua for all injury caused to Nicaragua by the breaches of obligations under customary international law enumerated above;</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings.</em></p><p></p><p>Me centre en el voto (no todo) de Sir Robert Jennings aqui en este link lo pueden leer completo <a href="http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=367&code=nus&p1=3&p2=3&case=70&k=66&p3=5">http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=367&code=nus&p1=3&p2=3&case=70&k=66&p3=5</a></p><p></p><p>Por otro lado, me gustaría que me digas ¿en que parte de mis mensajes puse que Argentina no recurre a la Corte Internacional de Justicia por este motivo?</p><p>El gobierno argentino no recurre a la CIJ, a ver si te queda claro de una buena vez, porque Gran Bretaña no va a dar su consentimiento para someterse a la voluntad de la Corte, ya que la política oficial británica con respecto a la soberanía de las islas, desde Lord Palmerston hasta el día de hoy, es que esta no se encuentra en discusión.</p><p></p><p>¿Cambio la posición del Foreign Office y no nos enteramos?</p><p></p><p>¿Publicidad? ¿propaganda? </p><p>Por favor, los Estados se manejan según sus afinidades e intereses, el unico logro, en mi opinion, serian una palmaditas en la espalda y unas cuantas palabras de apoyo, nada mas.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Saludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadow, post: 616839, member: 158"] Muy fiable testigo anónimo, parece que no comprendes, ya que das por sentado que una Corte Internacional que atiende litigios entre Estados es igual a un tribunal interno de un país que atiende un caso de divorcio entre particulares donde el juez es un tercero imparcial y neutral. Ya que para usted la cuestión de la nacionalidad de los jueces no es trascendente, abría que preguntarse ¿Por que el mismo Estatuto de la Corte Internacional de Justicia limita a sus miembros en razón de su procedencia y coloca un elevado número de jueces en el tribunal?. ¿Quieres pruebas? (aunque nunca nos das ninguna) tómese la molestia de revisar el voto del juez Sir Robert Jennings en el caso Nicaragua contra Estados Unidos, porque se observa que obviamente no lo leíste. [I]Rejects the justification of collective self-defence maintained by the United States of America in connection with the military and paramilitary activities in and against Nicaragua the subject of this case AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America, by training, arming, equipping, financing and supplying the contra forces or otherwise encouraging, supporting and aiding military and paramilitary activities in and against Nicaragua, has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligation under customary international law not to intervene in the affairs of another State; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America, by certain attacks on Nicaraguan territory in 1983-1984, namely attacks on Puerto Sandino on 13 September and 14 October 1983, an attack on Corinto on 10 October 1983; an attack on Potosi Naval Base on 4/5 January 1984, an attack on San Juan del Sur on 7 March 1984; attacks on patrol boats at Puerto Sandino on 28 and 30 March 1984; and an attack on San Juan del Norte on 9 April 1984; and further by those acts of intervention referred to in subparagraph (3) hereof which involve the use of force, has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligation under customary international law not to use force against another State; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America, by directing or authorizing over Rights of Nicaraguan territory, and by the acts imputable to the United States referred to in subparagraph (4) hereof, has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligation under customary international law not to violate the sovereignty of another State; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that, by laying mines in the internal or territorial waters of the Republic of Nicaragua during the first months of 1984, the United States of America has acted, against the Republic of Nicaragua, in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State, not to intervene in its affairs, not to violate its sovereignty and not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America, by the attacks on Nicaraguan territory referred to in subparagraph (4) hereof, and by declaring a general embargo on trade with Nicaragua on 1 May 1985, has committed acts calculated to deprive of its object and purpose the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America, by the attacks on Nicaraguan territory referred to in subparagraph (4) hereof, and by declaring a general embargo on trade with Nicaragua on 1 May 1985, has acted in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America is under a duty immediately to cease and to refrain from all such acts as may constitute breaches of the foregoing legal obligations; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings. Decides that the United States of America is under an obligation to make reparation to the Republic of Nicaragua for all injury caused to Nicaragua by the breaches of obligations under customary international law enumerated above; AGAINST: Judges Oda, Schwebel and Sir Robert Jennings.[/I] Me centre en el voto (no todo) de Sir Robert Jennings aqui en este link lo pueden leer completo [url]http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=367&code=nus&p1=3&p2=3&case=70&k=66&p3=5[/url] Por otro lado, me gustaría que me digas ¿en que parte de mis mensajes puse que Argentina no recurre a la Corte Internacional de Justicia por este motivo? El gobierno argentino no recurre a la CIJ, a ver si te queda claro de una buena vez, porque Gran Bretaña no va a dar su consentimiento para someterse a la voluntad de la Corte, ya que la política oficial británica con respecto a la soberanía de las islas, desde Lord Palmerston hasta el día de hoy, es que esta no se encuentra en discusión. ¿Cambio la posición del Foreign Office y no nos enteramos? ¿Publicidad? ¿propaganda? Por favor, los Estados se manejan según sus afinidades e intereses, el unico logro, en mi opinion, serian una palmaditas en la espalda y unas cuantas palabras de apoyo, nada mas. Saludos [/QUOTE]
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