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<blockquote data-quote="cosmiccomet74" data-source="post: 711023" data-attributes="member: 4858"><p><strong>SHR Pilot Edmund Spencer</strong></p><p></p><p>Amigos, recien llegue a Baires despues de volar el 20/10 Taipei-Hong Kong y vuelta a Taipei como tripulante. Despues me tome el vuelo TPE-FRA como pasajero a las 00 L del 21/10 llegando a Frankfurt el 21/10 a las 06:50L y conecte con Lufthansa FRA-Baires a las 10:20 L LH510 y llegue a Baires a las 19:05L.</p><p></p><p>Estoy chequeando los email y Edmund Spencer me respondio y aca les pego su relato del combate del 1ro de Mayo.</p><p></p><p>Saludos.</p><p></p><p>Dear Friends, I have just arrived to Baires after flying TPE-HKG and back as crew member. Later, I took the flight TPE-FRA as passenger departing at 00L 21 OCT arriving at 06:50 L and connecting with Lufthsansa FRA-Baires at 10:20 L LH510. I have arrived to Baires at 19:05L.</p><p></p><p>I am checking my emails and Edmund Spencer has answered me and here you have his comments about the May 1st dog fights.</p><p></p><p><strong>Good Morning Ariel,</strong></p><p><strong>My apologies for taking so long to reply. I am currently on an island in the Indian Ocean and email has been quite hard to access.</strong></p><p><strong>The pilots involved in the action you mentioned on 1st May were Paul Barton and Steve Thomas of 801 Naval Air Squadron embarked in HMS Invincible.</strong></p><p><strong>The combat merge is what we would have called a classic 'Hook and Eyeball' tactic. Steve Thomas apparently had radar contact on the two approaching Mirages and therefore took tactical lead. It would have been his intention to take one of the Mirages head to head at very close range (Perona) and then turn towards the other (Cuerva). As he passed head on with Perona Paul Barton would have been hooking in on Perona and this is reflected in Perona's account of events where he was hit by a missile shortly after the merge. Steve Thomas then dived towards Cuerva who, as you quite rightly mentioned, was heading towards cloud. He fired a missile but only saw an orange flash as Cuerva disappeared into cloud. I have spoken with Steve face to face about this and he is quite certain of the explosion.</strong></p><p><strong>What happened next is extremely interesting and, with the help of some of the local Malvinas Island inhabitants and Pablo Calcaterra, we have been trying to piece it together. The debate is whether Cuerva was damaged or not by the missile and whether he could have reasonably expected to have carried out a landing at Stanley airfield. I have spoken to several Australian pilots who have flown the Mirage III and they say a landing on the short runway would have been extremely hazardous.</strong></p><p><strong>Evidence shows Cuerva flew at low level down the main street of Stanley town rocking his wings violently. Whether this was intentional or because of control problems we don't know. he was apparently leaking fluids according to another source. At some moment he ejected something from his aircraft although we don't know what. (He had already got rid of his drop tanks.) Maybe the pylons? On this cue every single gun on the ground opened up on him. He was seen to fire a prolonged burst of cannon fire (either just before or just after being shot at) and then after a brief radio call crashed south of the airfield close to the shore line. He was killed on impact.</strong></p><p><strong>I regret there was absolutely no way he flew out to HMS Hermes and straffed us!</strong></p><p><strong>I can try to put you in touch with Steve Thomas if you like although I don't know if he will reply to you.</strong></p><p><strong>Regards</strong></p><p><strong>ES</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cosmiccomet74, post: 711023, member: 4858"] [b]SHR Pilot Edmund Spencer[/b] Amigos, recien llegue a Baires despues de volar el 20/10 Taipei-Hong Kong y vuelta a Taipei como tripulante. Despues me tome el vuelo TPE-FRA como pasajero a las 00 L del 21/10 llegando a Frankfurt el 21/10 a las 06:50L y conecte con Lufthansa FRA-Baires a las 10:20 L LH510 y llegue a Baires a las 19:05L. Estoy chequeando los email y Edmund Spencer me respondio y aca les pego su relato del combate del 1ro de Mayo. Saludos. Dear Friends, I have just arrived to Baires after flying TPE-HKG and back as crew member. Later, I took the flight TPE-FRA as passenger departing at 00L 21 OCT arriving at 06:50 L and connecting with Lufthsansa FRA-Baires at 10:20 L LH510. I have arrived to Baires at 19:05L. I am checking my emails and Edmund Spencer has answered me and here you have his comments about the May 1st dog fights. [B]Good Morning Ariel, My apologies for taking so long to reply. I am currently on an island in the Indian Ocean and email has been quite hard to access. The pilots involved in the action you mentioned on 1st May were Paul Barton and Steve Thomas of 801 Naval Air Squadron embarked in HMS Invincible. The combat merge is what we would have called a classic 'Hook and Eyeball' tactic. Steve Thomas apparently had radar contact on the two approaching Mirages and therefore took tactical lead. It would have been his intention to take one of the Mirages head to head at very close range (Perona) and then turn towards the other (Cuerva). As he passed head on with Perona Paul Barton would have been hooking in on Perona and this is reflected in Perona's account of events where he was hit by a missile shortly after the merge. Steve Thomas then dived towards Cuerva who, as you quite rightly mentioned, was heading towards cloud. He fired a missile but only saw an orange flash as Cuerva disappeared into cloud. I have spoken with Steve face to face about this and he is quite certain of the explosion. What happened next is extremely interesting and, with the help of some of the local Malvinas Island inhabitants and Pablo Calcaterra, we have been trying to piece it together. The debate is whether Cuerva was damaged or not by the missile and whether he could have reasonably expected to have carried out a landing at Stanley airfield. I have spoken to several Australian pilots who have flown the Mirage III and they say a landing on the short runway would have been extremely hazardous. Evidence shows Cuerva flew at low level down the main street of Stanley town rocking his wings violently. Whether this was intentional or because of control problems we don't know. he was apparently leaking fluids according to another source. At some moment he ejected something from his aircraft although we don't know what. (He had already got rid of his drop tanks.) Maybe the pylons? On this cue every single gun on the ground opened up on him. He was seen to fire a prolonged burst of cannon fire (either just before or just after being shot at) and then after a brief radio call crashed south of the airfield close to the shore line. He was killed on impact. I regret there was absolutely no way he flew out to HMS Hermes and straffed us! I can try to put you in touch with Steve Thomas if you like although I don't know if he will reply to you. Regards ES [/B] [/QUOTE]
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