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<blockquote data-quote="Griffiths911" data-source="post: 711027" data-attributes="member: 7364"><p><strong>Lt Cdr R (Fred) Frederiksen 7 April 1947 - 27 September 2009</strong></p><p></p><p>My apologies for introducing this off topic subject but reading what Edmund Spencer had to say made me think about a thread I read on another site yesterday. In it Edmund was commenting about the recent death of a fellow Malvinas veteran and Sea Harrier pilot 'Fred' Frederiksen. Some of you may find it an interesting read. Incidentally, the accident he refers to involving a young Harrier pilot (where he rips his landing off when taking off) happened on HMS Illustrious in 1985 and witnessed by me...I was steering the ship at the time of the accident.:yonofui:</p><p></p><p>21 May 1982, Lt.Cdmr. R. Fredriksen No.800 Squadron was vectored towards four Mirage Daggers. Fredriksen destroys one with a Sidewinder missile. The pilot, Lt. Luna(C-409) ejects.</p><p></p><p>Translation Ken:</p><p></p><p>Mis disculpas por la introducción de este tema off topic pero leer lo que Edmund Spencer tenía que decir me hizo pensar en un hilo que he leído en otro sitio de ayer. En ella Edmund comentaba acerca de la reciente muerte de un veterano de la guerra compañeros y Mar piloto Harrier 'Frederiksen Fred'. Algunos de ustedes pueden encontrar una interesante lectura. Por cierto, el accidente se refiere a la participación de un piloto de Harrier jóvenes (de donde arranca su aterrizaje fuera al despegar) ocurrió en el HMS Ilustre en 1985, y presenciado por mí ... yo era el gobierno del buque en el momento del accidente.:yonofui:</p><p></p><p>21 de mayo 1982, Lt.Cdmr. R. Fredriksen No.800 Squadron fue vector hacia cuatro Mirage Daggers. Fredriksen destruye con un misil Sidewinder. El piloto, el teniente Luna (C-409) expulsa.</p><p></p><p>Edmund Spencer:</p><p></p><p><em><strong>I first met Fred in 1982 on the way down to the Malvinas in HMS Hermes. I was a sprog pilot with 800 NAS and all of a sudden we were joined by this incredible group of very experienced aviators of which Fred was one.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Later, when the conflict began, Fred was one of the night flying gang and we seldom saw him during the day due to the hours of night alert these guys had to do. (Actually, not quite true. He always seemed to be crashed out on the back bench of the 800 NAS ready room! He had the gift of being able to sleep in the most unusual places in the most hectic environments.) Because he couldn't partake, he very kindly offered me his CSB ration (two pints a night) whilst he was on the night flying roster! (Didn't last for too long but I think I took advantage on the evening of 24 May!)</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Later it was Fred who was LSO when Dave Morgan and I returned from our action on 8 June. It was a much later and darker first duskers than originally planned and without Fred's calm guidance I am really not sure I could have pulled it off. I was absolutely shit scared with practically no fuel.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>After a stint in Hong Kong as CO of HMS Beachampton I went on to be Fred's Splot on 800 NAS. I remember a number of amusing incidents (in retrospect).</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>One of the young pilots not maintaining the centreline on take off from the carrier quite as well as he should. He managed to part company with his port outrigger wheel assembly as it snagged the catwalk. After climbing up into the overhead he tested his landing gear and was heard to say "I am not sure if my left outrigger wheel is down?"</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>The reply from Flyco, "Its down mate, down here on deck!!"</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>The same pilot led another reprobate up to the RNEFTS up in Yorkshire to give a talk and a bit of a fly by. The "Not below 800 feet and not above 300 kts" was clearly mis-interpretted as "Not below 800 kts and not above 300 feet!"</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>His wingman pulled so hard to stay in formation that he succeeded in parting company with both his 180 gallon drop tanks, one of which took away half of his tail plane. Miraculously, he maintained control and got the Harrier back on the ground OK.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>The same pilot 'yam singed' a pint of neat scotch on completion of a subsequent carrier work up and promptly collapsed having stopped breathing!</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Incredibly, his mates noticed and he was wheeled down to sick bay where he was re-started. I remember having to interupt Fred having a bath at the time to give him the glad tidings. "Why the hell did he do that?!" was his only comment!</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Fred was an incredibly experienced and wise aviator. I remember working up for air to air refuelling. Same pilot who lost is outrigger had been in the Yeovilton bar all night learning how to air to air refuel from a hairy arsed old Lightning pilot. "Its easy mate! You just eyeball the basket and f---ing put it in there!"</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>"And by the way, mine's another pint of CSB."</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>So up we went and predictably said pilot performed an amazing series of PIO's and slashes at the basket, eventually being sent home for a very spectacular 'spokes'.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Second sortie same day - same problem despite vigorous debrief! Crabs getting quite pissed off with the assault on their tanker.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>I went to Fred and explained the problem and this is what he said;</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>"Book the tanker for tonight and we will introduce him to night tanking!"</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>I was horrified! How could this guy night tank if he couldn't crack it by day.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Well, those of you who have done it will know that it is not quite so easy to see the basket at night and you really have to formate on the lights on the underneath of the tanker. Amazingly this fixed the problem and this particular pilot never looked back.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Fred was a brilliant and charismatic leader and he was loved by all. His passing is incredibly sad and I sincerely hope he is properly recognized by the Royal Navy in general and the Fleet Air Arm in particular.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>ES</strong></em></p><p></p><p>Again, sorry for the interruption and please carry on with your interesting </p><p>thread.</p><p></p><p>Una vez más, lo siento por la interrupción y por favor continúe con su tema interesante.</p><p></p><p>Ken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Griffiths911, post: 711027, member: 7364"] [b]Lt Cdr R (Fred) Frederiksen 7 April 1947 - 27 September 2009[/b] My apologies for introducing this off topic subject but reading what Edmund Spencer had to say made me think about a thread I read on another site yesterday. In it Edmund was commenting about the recent death of a fellow Malvinas veteran and Sea Harrier pilot 'Fred' Frederiksen. Some of you may find it an interesting read. Incidentally, the accident he refers to involving a young Harrier pilot (where he rips his landing off when taking off) happened on HMS Illustrious in 1985 and witnessed by me...I was steering the ship at the time of the accident.:yonofui: 21 May 1982, Lt.Cdmr. R. Fredriksen No.800 Squadron was vectored towards four Mirage Daggers. Fredriksen destroys one with a Sidewinder missile. The pilot, Lt. Luna(C-409) ejects. Translation Ken: Mis disculpas por la introducción de este tema off topic pero leer lo que Edmund Spencer tenía que decir me hizo pensar en un hilo que he leído en otro sitio de ayer. En ella Edmund comentaba acerca de la reciente muerte de un veterano de la guerra compañeros y Mar piloto Harrier 'Frederiksen Fred'. Algunos de ustedes pueden encontrar una interesante lectura. Por cierto, el accidente se refiere a la participación de un piloto de Harrier jóvenes (de donde arranca su aterrizaje fuera al despegar) ocurrió en el HMS Ilustre en 1985, y presenciado por mí ... yo era el gobierno del buque en el momento del accidente.:yonofui: 21 de mayo 1982, Lt.Cdmr. R. Fredriksen No.800 Squadron fue vector hacia cuatro Mirage Daggers. Fredriksen destruye con un misil Sidewinder. El piloto, el teniente Luna (C-409) expulsa. Edmund Spencer: [I][B]I first met Fred in 1982 on the way down to the Malvinas in HMS Hermes. I was a sprog pilot with 800 NAS and all of a sudden we were joined by this incredible group of very experienced aviators of which Fred was one. Later, when the conflict began, Fred was one of the night flying gang and we seldom saw him during the day due to the hours of night alert these guys had to do. (Actually, not quite true. He always seemed to be crashed out on the back bench of the 800 NAS ready room! He had the gift of being able to sleep in the most unusual places in the most hectic environments.) Because he couldn't partake, he very kindly offered me his CSB ration (two pints a night) whilst he was on the night flying roster! (Didn't last for too long but I think I took advantage on the evening of 24 May!) Later it was Fred who was LSO when Dave Morgan and I returned from our action on 8 June. It was a much later and darker first duskers than originally planned and without Fred's calm guidance I am really not sure I could have pulled it off. I was absolutely shit scared with practically no fuel. After a stint in Hong Kong as CO of HMS Beachampton I went on to be Fred's Splot on 800 NAS. I remember a number of amusing incidents (in retrospect). One of the young pilots not maintaining the centreline on take off from the carrier quite as well as he should. He managed to part company with his port outrigger wheel assembly as it snagged the catwalk. After climbing up into the overhead he tested his landing gear and was heard to say "I am not sure if my left outrigger wheel is down?" The reply from Flyco, "Its down mate, down here on deck!!" The same pilot led another reprobate up to the RNEFTS up in Yorkshire to give a talk and a bit of a fly by. The "Not below 800 feet and not above 300 kts" was clearly mis-interpretted as "Not below 800 kts and not above 300 feet!" His wingman pulled so hard to stay in formation that he succeeded in parting company with both his 180 gallon drop tanks, one of which took away half of his tail plane. Miraculously, he maintained control and got the Harrier back on the ground OK. The same pilot 'yam singed' a pint of neat scotch on completion of a subsequent carrier work up and promptly collapsed having stopped breathing! Incredibly, his mates noticed and he was wheeled down to sick bay where he was re-started. I remember having to interupt Fred having a bath at the time to give him the glad tidings. "Why the hell did he do that?!" was his only comment! Fred was an incredibly experienced and wise aviator. I remember working up for air to air refuelling. Same pilot who lost is outrigger had been in the Yeovilton bar all night learning how to air to air refuel from a hairy arsed old Lightning pilot. "Its easy mate! You just eyeball the basket and f---ing put it in there!" "And by the way, mine's another pint of CSB." So up we went and predictably said pilot performed an amazing series of PIO's and slashes at the basket, eventually being sent home for a very spectacular 'spokes'. Second sortie same day - same problem despite vigorous debrief! Crabs getting quite pissed off with the assault on their tanker. I went to Fred and explained the problem and this is what he said; "Book the tanker for tonight and we will introduce him to night tanking!" I was horrified! How could this guy night tank if he couldn't crack it by day. Well, those of you who have done it will know that it is not quite so easy to see the basket at night and you really have to formate on the lights on the underneath of the tanker. Amazingly this fixed the problem and this particular pilot never looked back. Fred was a brilliant and charismatic leader and he was loved by all. His passing is incredibly sad and I sincerely hope he is properly recognized by the Royal Navy in general and the Fleet Air Arm in particular. ES[/B][/I] Again, sorry for the interruption and please carry on with your interesting thread. Una vez más, lo siento por la interrupción y por favor continúe con su tema interesante. Ken. [/QUOTE]
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