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<blockquote data-quote="cosmiccomet74" data-source="post: 1564681" data-attributes="member: 4858"><p>No existe ningun operador que haya hecho la conversión. Y lo que no dice el website es cuanto cuesta llevar los 65 tons en el 340 y cuanto 57 tons en el 767.</p><p></p><p>Si todos van por dos bimotores, el A330 y el 767, porque inventar la rueda???</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>ANALYSIS: Is the passenger-carrying 767 really dead?</strong></span></p><p>By: <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Stephen%20Trimble.html">STEPHEN TRIMBLE</a></p><p>WASHINGTON DC</p><p>Source: <a href="http://pro.flightglobal.com/pages/news/articleslist.aspx"><img src="http://www.flightglobal.com/images/articlesources/pro.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>15:59 12 May 2014</p><p>Repeating a well-rehearsed ceremony, <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing.html">Boeing</a> will within the next few days or weeks deliver the 1,062nd <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing%20767.html">767</a> since 1982, to Kazakhstan flag carrier <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Air%20Astana.html">Air Astana</a>.</p><p></p><p>However, one fact makes this delivery ceremony stands out – even in Boeing’s nearly century-long history. The delivery of this 767-300ER completes – for now at least – the existing backlog of passenger-carrying versions of the aircraft, possibly ending an uninterrupted 32-year production run for passenger-carrying 767s in general, and a 26-year run for the small widebody’s most popular variant.</p><p></p><p>Although orders for the passenger version have run dry, the 767 backlog is still healthy generally. Boeing has 44 767-300 Freighters and four 767-2C commercial freighters in the order backlog. The latter are the first of potentially 179 improved 767 freighters to be modified into KC-46A Pegasus tankers for the US Air Force under the KC-X programme signed in 2011.</p><p></p><p>With no Boeing-built alternative available in the same segment for the foreseeable future, the market for 767 commercial and military freighters still has a future.</p><p></p><p>However, demand for the passenger-carrying variant is less clear. The <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A330.html">Airbus A330</a>’s arrival in 1997 hit the 767 hard, so Boeing launched the <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing%20787.html">787</a> to replace the passenger-carrying versions – including the less popular 767-400ER variant – in 2003. If Boeing’s original strategy had played out as envisioned and the 787 entered service on schedule in 2008, the 767-300ER may have ceased production already.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus.html">Airbus</a> is still working out its strategy in the segment that the 767 and 787 occupies. The airframer is officially set on delivering the <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A350-800.html">A350-800</a>, but is also entertaining calls for a re-engined <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A330.html">A330</a>. The future of the 767 passenger variant is feasible only if Airbus remains locked on the A350-800 option, says Richard Aboulafia, vice-president of analysis at the Teal Group.</p><p></p><p>“If Airbus doesn’t re-engine the A330, then maybe [the passenger 767 has a future],” he says.</p><p></p><p>An A330neo would occupy shorter routes of 5,000nm (9,270km) or less in the passenger class – closer to the 767-300ER. “Then [the passenger 767] ends,” Aboulafia adds.</p><p></p><p>Since Air Astana announced its order for four 767-300ERs more than two years ago in March 2012, the aircraft has won no new orders.</p><p></p><p>There is a reason, however, that Boeing has no plans to especially highlight the delivery of the last 767-300ER in the current backlog: the manufacturer still believes there could be a future for the passenger-carrying variant.</p><p></p><p>The KC-X programme envisions deliveries of 179 KC-46As through to 2027 – if the <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/USAF.html">USAF</a> exercises each annual option in the contract. That keeps the production line open, even as Boeing plots how to fill an acknowledged gap in the market between the 737-900ER and the 787-8. This is the segment currently occupied by the 767-300ER, with 218 seats in a three-class configuration.</p><p></p><p>“The 767-300ER continues to serve the market niche between the 737-900ER and the 787-8,” says Boeing. “The 767 aircraft is the only Boeing product that addresses the freighter, passenger and tanker markets – making the possibilities for new 767 orders optimistic for decades to come.”</p><p></p><p>Boeing has dropped the slow-selling 767-400ER from its marketing strategy, but the 767-300ER is still on offer with a list price of $186 million.</p><p></p><p>A decade ago, Boeing ceased production of the 757-200, a narrowbody aircraft with 3,900nm range. Neither the 737-900ER in production or the 737-9 in development come within 300nm of the 757-200’s maximum range, leaving a hole in the market that is actively being considered by both Airbus and Boeing.</p><p></p><p>However, Boeing could struggle to make the 767-300ER a viable option as a gap filler for the 757-200 on transatlantic routes, even though no new aircraft is likely to arrive until at least 2022.</p><p></p><p>This is when the 777-8X is scheduled to enter service – the last of seven commercial aircraft now in Boeing’s developmental pipeline.</p><p></p><p>The lack of other options, however, still makes the 767-300ER an odd fit for a <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing%20757.html">757</a> replacement. Although the 767-300ER easily surpasses the range of the 757-200, it is also priced far beyond the price tag of the long-range narrowbody.</p><p></p><p>Boeing listed the price of the 757 at $65 million in 2002. A consumer price index inflation calculator raises that value to $85.4 million in current dollars – so airlines would have to be inclined to replace an aircraft with more than twice the list value of a new 757.</p><p></p><p>The 767-300ER list price has grown by one-fifth over the past five years, in real terms. The escalating cost of the aircraft has continued despite Boeing’s efforts to make a slower production rate more efficient.</p><p></p><p>In 2011, as <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Seattle%20Tacoma%20International.html">Seattle</a> delivered the 1,000th 767 aircraft to <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/ANA%20-%20All%20Nippon%20Airways.html">All Nippon Airways</a>, the company also unveiled a new production line.</p><p></p><p>The 767 prompted Boeing to expand the Everett final assembly factory in the late 1970s. The 767 had been in the 40-24 assembly bay for more than 30 years, but was moved in 2011 to make room for the surge line on the 787 programme.</p><p></p><p>Boeing opened a new line for the 767 with two assembly positions in the 40-33 assembly bay, which faces the rear of the structure. The new location reduced the aircraft’s factory footprint by about 50%.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, Boeing started introducing upgrades to the 767 to accommodate USAF requirements. The 767-2C, offered as a commercial freighter, will feature 787-derived <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Rockwell%20Collins.html">Rockwell Collins</a> displays.</p><p></p><p>USAF officials, including former KC-X programme manager Lt Gen Christopher Bogdan, has linked<a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/FedEx.html">FedEx</a> as a future operator of the 767-2C variant, although the company is officially in the backlog as ordering the 767-300F.</p><p></p><p>As the KC-46A, the 767-2C is expected to achieve first flight later this year. The USAF tanker programme is another door-opening opportunity for the 767 production line, as it could be a decade or more before Boeing is ready to convert the 787 into a military aircraft. That is if its composite structure allows the kind of modifications required for special missions.</p><p></p><p>The 767 airframe has already entered service in a variety of roles. In addition to the KC-46A, the Japanese air force operates an airborne early warning and control aircraft based on the 767-200ER. The Italian air force uses a different modification of the same variant as an in-flight refuelling tanker.</p><p></p><p>“The 767 has a bright future in expanded applications, particularly for military use in tanker and command-and-control applications,” Boeing says.</p><p></p><p>The USAF attempted to assign a command-and-control role to the 767 about a decade ago. As part of the multisensor command-and-control aircraft (MC2A) programme, the Boeing KC-135-based E-8C joint surveillance target attack radar system (JSTARS) and E-3 AWACS fleet was to be replaced with a common fleet based on the 767-400ER.</p><p></p><p>The MC2A programme was later cancelled – although the requirement still remains. The USAF is pursuing a new strategy to replace the JSTARS fleet with a business jet-based platform. No replacement for the E-3A fleet is currently planned, but the 767 could still be a candidate for such a requirement.</p><p></p><p>That leaves the commercial market for the passenger version as the last marketing possibility for the 767 family.</p><p></p><p>Airbus plans to continue selling and building A330s long after the <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A350.html">A350</a> enters service. However, the lifespan of the A330 could only approach the longevity of the 767 if Airbus decides to re-engine the widebody</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cosmiccomet74, post: 1564681, member: 4858"] No existe ningun operador que haya hecho la conversión. Y lo que no dice el website es cuanto cuesta llevar los 65 tons en el 340 y cuanto 57 tons en el 767. Si todos van por dos bimotores, el A330 y el 767, porque inventar la rueda??? [SIZE=6][B]ANALYSIS: Is the passenger-carrying 767 really dead?[/B][/SIZE] By: [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Stephen%20Trimble.html']STEPHEN TRIMBLE[/URL] WASHINGTON DC Source: [URL='http://pro.flightglobal.com/pages/news/articleslist.aspx'][IMG]http://www.flightglobal.com/images/articlesources/pro.png[/IMG][/URL] 15:59 12 May 2014 Repeating a well-rehearsed ceremony, [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing.html']Boeing[/URL] will within the next few days or weeks deliver the 1,062nd [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing%20767.html']767[/URL] since 1982, to Kazakhstan flag carrier [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Air%20Astana.html']Air Astana[/URL]. However, one fact makes this delivery ceremony stands out – even in Boeing’s nearly century-long history. The delivery of this 767-300ER completes – for now at least – the existing backlog of passenger-carrying versions of the aircraft, possibly ending an uninterrupted 32-year production run for passenger-carrying 767s in general, and a 26-year run for the small widebody’s most popular variant. Although orders for the passenger version have run dry, the 767 backlog is still healthy generally. Boeing has 44 767-300 Freighters and four 767-2C commercial freighters in the order backlog. The latter are the first of potentially 179 improved 767 freighters to be modified into KC-46A Pegasus tankers for the US Air Force under the KC-X programme signed in 2011. With no Boeing-built alternative available in the same segment for the foreseeable future, the market for 767 commercial and military freighters still has a future. However, demand for the passenger-carrying variant is less clear. The [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A330.html']Airbus A330[/URL]’s arrival in 1997 hit the 767 hard, so Boeing launched the [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing%20787.html']787[/URL] to replace the passenger-carrying versions – including the less popular 767-400ER variant – in 2003. If Boeing’s original strategy had played out as envisioned and the 787 entered service on schedule in 2008, the 767-300ER may have ceased production already. [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus.html']Airbus[/URL] is still working out its strategy in the segment that the 767 and 787 occupies. The airframer is officially set on delivering the [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A350-800.html']A350-800[/URL], but is also entertaining calls for a re-engined [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A330.html']A330[/URL]. The future of the 767 passenger variant is feasible only if Airbus remains locked on the A350-800 option, says Richard Aboulafia, vice-president of analysis at the Teal Group. “If Airbus doesn’t re-engine the A330, then maybe [the passenger 767 has a future],” he says. An A330neo would occupy shorter routes of 5,000nm (9,270km) or less in the passenger class – closer to the 767-300ER. “Then [the passenger 767] ends,” Aboulafia adds. Since Air Astana announced its order for four 767-300ERs more than two years ago in March 2012, the aircraft has won no new orders. There is a reason, however, that Boeing has no plans to especially highlight the delivery of the last 767-300ER in the current backlog: the manufacturer still believes there could be a future for the passenger-carrying variant. The KC-X programme envisions deliveries of 179 KC-46As through to 2027 – if the [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/USAF.html']USAF[/URL] exercises each annual option in the contract. That keeps the production line open, even as Boeing plots how to fill an acknowledged gap in the market between the 737-900ER and the 787-8. This is the segment currently occupied by the 767-300ER, with 218 seats in a three-class configuration. “The 767-300ER continues to serve the market niche between the 737-900ER and the 787-8,” says Boeing. “The 767 aircraft is the only Boeing product that addresses the freighter, passenger and tanker markets – making the possibilities for new 767 orders optimistic for decades to come.” Boeing has dropped the slow-selling 767-400ER from its marketing strategy, but the 767-300ER is still on offer with a list price of $186 million. A decade ago, Boeing ceased production of the 757-200, a narrowbody aircraft with 3,900nm range. Neither the 737-900ER in production or the 737-9 in development come within 300nm of the 757-200’s maximum range, leaving a hole in the market that is actively being considered by both Airbus and Boeing. However, Boeing could struggle to make the 767-300ER a viable option as a gap filler for the 757-200 on transatlantic routes, even though no new aircraft is likely to arrive until at least 2022. This is when the 777-8X is scheduled to enter service – the last of seven commercial aircraft now in Boeing’s developmental pipeline. The lack of other options, however, still makes the 767-300ER an odd fit for a [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Boeing%20757.html']757[/URL] replacement. Although the 767-300ER easily surpasses the range of the 757-200, it is also priced far beyond the price tag of the long-range narrowbody. Boeing listed the price of the 757 at $65 million in 2002. A consumer price index inflation calculator raises that value to $85.4 million in current dollars – so airlines would have to be inclined to replace an aircraft with more than twice the list value of a new 757. The 767-300ER list price has grown by one-fifth over the past five years, in real terms. The escalating cost of the aircraft has continued despite Boeing’s efforts to make a slower production rate more efficient. In 2011, as [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Seattle%20Tacoma%20International.html']Seattle[/URL] delivered the 1,000th 767 aircraft to [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/ANA%20-%20All%20Nippon%20Airways.html']All Nippon Airways[/URL], the company also unveiled a new production line. The 767 prompted Boeing to expand the Everett final assembly factory in the late 1970s. The 767 had been in the 40-24 assembly bay for more than 30 years, but was moved in 2011 to make room for the surge line on the 787 programme. Boeing opened a new line for the 767 with two assembly positions in the 40-33 assembly bay, which faces the rear of the structure. The new location reduced the aircraft’s factory footprint by about 50%. At the same time, Boeing started introducing upgrades to the 767 to accommodate USAF requirements. The 767-2C, offered as a commercial freighter, will feature 787-derived [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Rockwell%20Collins.html']Rockwell Collins[/URL] displays. USAF officials, including former KC-X programme manager Lt Gen Christopher Bogdan, has linked[URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/FedEx.html']FedEx[/URL] as a future operator of the 767-2C variant, although the company is officially in the backlog as ordering the 767-300F. As the KC-46A, the 767-2C is expected to achieve first flight later this year. The USAF tanker programme is another door-opening opportunity for the 767 production line, as it could be a decade or more before Boeing is ready to convert the 787 into a military aircraft. That is if its composite structure allows the kind of modifications required for special missions. The 767 airframe has already entered service in a variety of roles. In addition to the KC-46A, the Japanese air force operates an airborne early warning and control aircraft based on the 767-200ER. The Italian air force uses a different modification of the same variant as an in-flight refuelling tanker. “The 767 has a bright future in expanded applications, particularly for military use in tanker and command-and-control applications,” Boeing says. The USAF attempted to assign a command-and-control role to the 767 about a decade ago. As part of the multisensor command-and-control aircraft (MC2A) programme, the Boeing KC-135-based E-8C joint surveillance target attack radar system (JSTARS) and E-3 AWACS fleet was to be replaced with a common fleet based on the 767-400ER. The MC2A programme was later cancelled – although the requirement still remains. The USAF is pursuing a new strategy to replace the JSTARS fleet with a business jet-based platform. No replacement for the E-3A fleet is currently planned, but the 767 could still be a candidate for such a requirement. That leaves the commercial market for the passenger version as the last marketing possibility for the 767 family. Airbus plans to continue selling and building A330s long after the [URL='http://www.flightglobal.com/landingpage/Airbus%20A350.html']A350[/URL] enters service. However, the lifespan of the A330 could only approach the longevity of the 767 if Airbus decides to re-engine the widebody [/QUOTE]
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