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<blockquote data-quote="SUT" data-source="post: 1178972" data-attributes="member: 6528"><p>Caporal, con todo respeto, pero la interpretacion britanica actual es la inversa. De hecho se le reconoce a Hammond el haber balanceado el presupuesto, garantizado el financiamiento de los proyectos clave y ademas haber producido un margen de seguridad de 8 billones de libras precisamente para "eventos inesperados". Es el unico Ministerio de defensa europeo con presupuesto balanceado en los ultimos 15 años!!</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Defence budget 'balanced' - Hammond</span></strong></span></strong></p></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: right">Lead</p> <p style="text-align: right"><strong>[-]</strong></p><p></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Posts: 3599</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">(14-May-2012 09:26:35)</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/forum/topicreply/id/20294?page=1"><span style="color: #ff0000">Reply</span></a><br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/forum/quotetopic/id/20294?page=1"><span style="color: #ff0000">Quote</span></a><br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>More<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/search/text/uid/720913"><span style="color: #ff0000">My Recent Posts</span></a></p> </li> </ul></u></li> </ul> <p style="text-align: right"><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://yuku.com/login/loginnow"><span style="color: #ff0000">Remove this ad</span></a></p> </p><p>14 May 2012 Last updated at 01:33</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Defence Secretary Philip Hammond is expected to announce that the Ministry of Defence has balanced its budget for the first time in about a decade.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Balancing the books will eliminate the £38bn deficit in funding over the next 10 years - although it is not yet clear how this has been achieved.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Mr Hammond is likely to tell Parliament he has built in a reserve of funding which he hopes mean planned projects will not be delayed or scrapped.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">No new redundancies are planned.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Equipment wish-list</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Mr Hammond will be keen to dwell on what is being funded on the equipment list, rather than what is not, says BBC defence correspondent Caroline Wyatt.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">For the Army, the plans are expected to include the upgrade for Britain's ageing Warrior armoured vehicles, and a new type of Scout reconnaissance vehicle.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">For the Navy, it could include the new Type-26 frigate, and for the Royal Air Force, continuing improvements to Typhoon fighter jets and an upgrade to the Puma helicopter.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">The MoD, however, is unlikely to say which of the many other projects on its wish-list are not being given the go-ahead until - and unless - the money later becomes available.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Mr Hammond has also made clear that there would be no new redundancies.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">However, much of the pain of the cuts announced in the Strategic Defence Review is still to make itself felt.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">The numbers of regular service personnel will be cut by around 20% by 2020, with MoD civilian personnel falling by almost 40% in the same period.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">The Army is being cut to 82,000 personnel, and reductions are being made in the Royal Navy, the RAF and the civil service.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">"The announcements we've already made about reductions in manpower are as far as we need to go to balance to the budget, so there are still further reductions in the size of the Army to get down to the 82,000 that we've announced and there will be further tranches of civil service redundancies to get the civil service down to the size that we have announced," Mr Hammond said.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Mr Hammond became defence secretary in October last year, taking over from Liam Fox who resigned after pressure over a working relationship with one of his friends.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>Analysis</strong></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48642000/jpg/_48642120_001379846.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> Caroline Wyatt Defence correspondent, BBC News</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">The defence secretary dubbed Forensic Phil has taken a long, hard look at the MoD's books. Planning Round 2012, or 'PR12', has taken many months of agonised negotiation.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">It is not clear exactly how Mr Hammond has done his calculations, though it's understood he has built in a reserve of some £8 billion over the next decade.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">With that, he will be hoping that the projects to which the MoD has committed funding won't be delayed or scrapped due to cost rises or a shortfall in cash in the future - and that the Treasury doesn't try to claw back any future underspend.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">Senior military sources have praised the defence secretary's attention to detail, his thoroughness and pragmatic approach, and for coming up with a "balanced plan for austere times".</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">However, with redundancies ahead, morale amongst military personnel and civilians within much of the MoD remains fragile, with continuing uncertainty over whose jobs are still to go, plus discontent over the withdrawal of many types of allowances.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000">The wait for the complex plans spelling out how the Regular Army will be reshaped as it reduces to 82,000 by 2020 - with better use of the Territorial Army to compensate - has added to the uncertainty, with speculation over the potential loss of cap badges.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18054731">www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18054731</a></span></span></span></p><p></p><p>De la misma forma, vuelvo a insistir, la propuesta americana es producir un segundo CV operativo en margenes en que en otro momento habria estado fuera de servicio esperando refit. La dedicacion de medios a fines NATO no te debe de hacer olvidar que la funcion de la NATO es la defensa de intereses una vez que ya NO hay amenaza a su integridad territorial ante la URSS</p><p></p><p>Obviamente, cada cual puede creer lo que piense, pero estos tipos de geo estrategica parecen un poco adolescentes, solazandose en desgracias reales, y cuando no las hay, inventadas, de los britanicos.</p><p></p><p>curioso..pero eso no lo hace real...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SUT, post: 1178972, member: 6528"] Caporal, con todo respeto, pero la interpretacion britanica actual es la inversa. De hecho se le reconoce a Hammond el haber balanceado el presupuesto, garantizado el financiamiento de los proyectos clave y ademas haber producido un margen de seguridad de 8 billones de libras precisamente para "eventos inesperados". Es el unico Ministerio de defensa europeo con presupuesto balanceado en los ultimos 15 años!! [SIZE=10px][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#000000][LEFT][B] [SIZE=4][B][FONT=Arial]Defence budget 'balanced' - Hammond[/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [/B][/LEFT] [RIGHT]Lead[/RIGHT] [RIGHT][B][-][/B][/RIGHT] Posts: 3599 (14-May-2012 09:26:35) [LIST] [*][URL='http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/forum/topicreply/id/20294?page=1'][COLOR=#ff0000]Reply[/COLOR][/URL] [*][URL='http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/forum/quotetopic/id/20294?page=1'][COLOR=#ff0000]Quote[/COLOR][/URL] [*][U]More [LIST] [*][CENTER][URL='http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/search/text/uid/720913'][COLOR=#ff0000]My Recent Posts[/COLOR][/URL][/CENTER] [/LIST][/U] [/LIST] [RIGHT][CENTER][URL='http://yuku.com/login/loginnow'][COLOR=#ff0000]Remove this ad[/COLOR][/URL][/CENTER][/RIGHT] 14 May 2012 Last updated at 01:33 Defence Secretary Philip Hammond is expected to announce that the Ministry of Defence has balanced its budget for the first time in about a decade. Balancing the books will eliminate the £38bn deficit in funding over the next 10 years - although it is not yet clear how this has been achieved. Mr Hammond is likely to tell Parliament he has built in a reserve of funding which he hopes mean planned projects will not be delayed or scrapped. No new redundancies are planned. Equipment wish-list Mr Hammond will be keen to dwell on what is being funded on the equipment list, rather than what is not, says BBC defence correspondent Caroline Wyatt. For the Army, the plans are expected to include the upgrade for Britain's ageing Warrior armoured vehicles, and a new type of Scout reconnaissance vehicle. For the Navy, it could include the new Type-26 frigate, and for the Royal Air Force, continuing improvements to Typhoon fighter jets and an upgrade to the Puma helicopter. The MoD, however, is unlikely to say which of the many other projects on its wish-list are not being given the go-ahead until - and unless - the money later becomes available. Mr Hammond has also made clear that there would be no new redundancies. However, much of the pain of the cuts announced in the Strategic Defence Review is still to make itself felt. The numbers of regular service personnel will be cut by around 20% by 2020, with MoD civilian personnel falling by almost 40% in the same period. The Army is being cut to 82,000 personnel, and reductions are being made in the Royal Navy, the RAF and the civil service. "The announcements we've already made about reductions in manpower are as far as we need to go to balance to the budget, so there are still further reductions in the size of the Army to get down to the 82,000 that we've announced and there will be further tranches of civil service redundancies to get the civil service down to the size that we have announced," Mr Hammond said. Mr Hammond became defence secretary in October last year, taking over from Liam Fox who resigned after pressure over a working relationship with one of his friends. [SIZE=5][B]Analysis[/B][/SIZE] [IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48642000/jpg/_48642120_001379846.jpg[/IMG] Caroline Wyatt Defence correspondent, BBC News The defence secretary dubbed Forensic Phil has taken a long, hard look at the MoD's books. Planning Round 2012, or 'PR12', has taken many months of agonised negotiation. It is not clear exactly how Mr Hammond has done his calculations, though it's understood he has built in a reserve of some £8 billion over the next decade. With that, he will be hoping that the projects to which the MoD has committed funding won't be delayed or scrapped due to cost rises or a shortfall in cash in the future - and that the Treasury doesn't try to claw back any future underspend. Senior military sources have praised the defence secretary's attention to detail, his thoroughness and pragmatic approach, and for coming up with a "balanced plan for austere times". However, with redundancies ahead, morale amongst military personnel and civilians within much of the MoD remains fragile, with continuing uncertainty over whose jobs are still to go, plus discontent over the withdrawal of many types of allowances. The wait for the complex plans spelling out how the Regular Army will be reshaped as it reduces to 82,000 by 2020 - with better use of the Territorial Army to compensate - has added to the uncertainty, with speculation over the potential loss of cap badges. [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18054731"]www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18054731[/url][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] De la misma forma, vuelvo a insistir, la propuesta americana es producir un segundo CV operativo en margenes en que en otro momento habria estado fuera de servicio esperando refit. La dedicacion de medios a fines NATO no te debe de hacer olvidar que la funcion de la NATO es la defensa de intereses una vez que ya NO hay amenaza a su integridad territorial ante la URSS Obviamente, cada cual puede creer lo que piense, pero estos tipos de geo estrategica parecen un poco adolescentes, solazandose en desgracias reales, y cuando no las hay, inventadas, de los britanicos. curioso..pero eso no lo hace real... [/QUOTE]
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