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Mensaje: <blockquote data-quote="Grulla" data-source="post: 630720" data-attributes="member: 5064">No se quien dijo que en Vietnam el MiG-21 era el "State of the Art de los rusos", me parece que compararlo con los F-4 no es justo ya que se puede consirar al Su-15 como equivalente del F-4, ni hablar del MiG-25 que comenzaba a entrar en servicio.Respecto a la realación de derribos, eso depende de que lado lo mires. En el Documental "Rusia, los Años Desconocidos: La Historia de los MiG", las fuentes rusas reclaman una relación de derribos de 4 a 1 en favor del MiG-21. Y respecto a Corea, hay pilotos sovieticos que reclaman 26 aviones, uno de ellos 16 sabre. Acá un pequeño resumen. The following is part of the article by two Russian historians, Leonid Krylov and Yuri Tepsurkayev, about the history of air combat between the Soviet VVS and the U.S. air forces during the Korean War. The article was published in the "Mir Aviatsii ("The Aviation World") magazine in 1998 and includes a lot of information from the recently - declassified Soviet archives from that period. The article deals with the effort by the VVS to capture a working "Sabre" by forcing it to land at a Soviet airfield.American claims of 10:1 kill ratio (or some other fantastic ratio of this sort) during the Korean war in favor of the U.S. pilots is commonly explained by the "superior" training of American pilots. It is admitted by most Western historians and, most importantly, by many American pilots themselves, that technically the MiG-15 was at least a match for the best American jet fighter of the Korean War - the F-86 "Sabre." It would be appropriate to mention that the UN air forces in Korea included many other aircraft types considerably inferior to the MiG-15.In general, Western historians do not like to talk about why they think American pilots were the most experienced during the Korean War. There's certainly no way to support this position with facts simply because its erroneous. It is a fact that the Soviet pilots flew approximately 3.5 million combat sorties during the Second World War. This is 2-3 times more that the number of sorties flown by the U.S. pilots during this war. ["Red Phoenix", by Von Hardesty.] While the number of American W.W.II fighter aces, who shot down 20 or more aircraft, barely exceeds two dozen, the number of Soviet aces, who shot down 29 or more aircraft is well over a hundred. The number of Soviet aces credited with shooting down 20 or more aircraft during the Second World War is in hundreds. [Soviet Aces of World War 2, Hugh Morgan, Osprey aerospace, 1998]This is a very important fact, considering that the Soviet pilots in Korea were represented by the best-of-the-best the VVS could offer. Many of the Second World War aces participated in the Korean war as pilots and commanders. This was a new era of jet aircraft, but the weapons used on aircraft were essentially the same old cannons and machine-guns taken from the propeller fighters of the W.W.II and most elements of air combat remained unchanged. Most but not all. As you will find out from the story below, W.W.II experience did not mean an automatic victory in Korea, especially when some high-ranking officials ignored warnings of experienced pilots.There was an enormous gap is the number of experienced pilots in the US and the USSR after the Second World War. And this gap remained during the Korean War as well, allowing the Soviet VVS to attain a favorable 3.3:1 kill ratio against the UN aircraft. During the Korean War the VVS pilots flew 1,872 combat sorties and downed 1,106 US-made aircraft, of which 650 were F-86 "Sabres." In air combat over Korea against the VVS, Americans lost about two "Sabres" for every downed Soviet MiG-15. ["Russian Weapons: War and Peace," by Vladimir Babych, 1997]During the Korean War, the best American ace, Capt. MacConnel, was credited with shooting down 16 MiG-15s, while the best Soviet ace, Capt. Sutyagin, downed 23 American aircraft. ["Duel" N 20 (42) - 21(43), 1997] The gap between Soviet and American aces remained during the Korean War: there were 40 American aces who were credited with shooting down 5 or more enemy fighters, while the number of Soviet aces with 5 or more kills was 51. ["Duel" N 20 (42) - 21(43), 1997]The number of Soviet non-combat losses was only 10 aircraft. The number of non-combat losses, officially admitted by the US, is 945 ["The United States Air Force in Korea 1950-1953" by Robert Futrell]. This enormous number non-combat losses is a testament to the "superior" training of American pilots as well as to the attempts on the part of the US government and the military to present combat losses as "accidents." The Chinese and Korean air forces lost 231 fighters in combat, which brings the total number of MiG losses to 576 aircraft. The Americans claimed to have shot down 2,300 "Communist aircraft." [Aviation Encyclopedia, 1977, New-York] This was one of many wild claims made by the media and certain unscrupulous historians, contradicting even the USAF claims.Later claims by the US of enemy aircraft downed during the Korean War, were revised to 976 and then further to 935 - still hundreds of aircraft more than the actual number of "Communist" aircraft downed.  Americans admitted to losing a total of 1,035 aircraft, of which 816 were downed by ground fire, 147 shot down in air-to-air combat, and 72 aircraft lost to unknown causes. ["The United States Air Force in Korea 1950-1953" by Robert Futrell] Other sources put just the USAF losses at 1,144 aircraft, 1,176 killed and 386 wounded in action. [Korean-War.com web site, by Ed Evanhoe]</blockquote>

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