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<blockquote data-quote="ARGENTVS" data-source="post: 1890048" data-attributes="member: 93"><p><a href="http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html">http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html</a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong><a href="http://ria.ru/analytics/">OPINION</a></strong></span></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/export/rss2/analytics/index.xml">RSS</a></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>As one Russian salvo removed from the US fleet of marine spaces</strong></span></p><p>Subject:</p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/trend/russia_war_against_is_30092015/">Russian combat aircraft operation in Syria (522)</a></p><p></p><p>17:20 08/10/2015 (updated: 19:01 08/10/2015) <a href="http://ria.ru/authors/rostislav_ischencko/">Rostislav Ishchenko </a><a href="http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html#comments">143</a>209919188750</p><p>Before the volley, "caliber", made the Caspian Flotilla, Washington was convinced that Russia is not able to effectively oppose US military action without the use of nuclear weapons. This, in fact, was based American audacity in international politics, says <a href="http://ria.ru/authors/rostislav_ischencko/">Rostislav </a>Ishchenko.</p><p><img src="http://cdn11.img22.ria.ru/images/129878/23/1298782307.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><a href="http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html">© RIA Novosti. Dmitry Vinogradov</a> | <a href="http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713674">Buy graphic</a></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Rostislav Ishchenko, president of the Center of System Analysis and Forecasting</strong></span></p><p>Nobody paid attention to the fact that the Russian aviation group in Syria on quantitative structure and nomenclature of planes tried to bomb almost identical to the Donbass in 2014 Ukrainian Air Force. They constitute the basis of the same bombers Su-24 and Su-25.</p><p></p><p>Only Ukrainian aircraft in a matter of weeks the miners were driven from heaven, hairdressers, taxi drivers and security guards supermarkets and Russia can not cause at least some damage to well-trained, and armed with long experience fighting terrorists IG. Moreover, it respectfully eschew warplanes Israel, Turkey, and all over the US "anti-terror" coalition as a whole.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298899639.html"><img src="http://cdn11.img22.ria.ru/images/129865/00/1298650007.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p><a href="http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html">© RIA Novosti. Dmitry Vinogradov</a> | <a href="http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713650">Buy graphic</a></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298899639.html">Defense Ministry: Russian VKS 27 attacked terrorist targets in Syria</a></p><p>This reflects both a high level of training of Russian pilots and features upgraded aircraft, to create even in the 70s of the last century, and the fact that the Russian video conferencing, unlike the Ukrainian Air Force, are truly coherent and effective tool that has, besides the impact air component, the integrated air defense system, radio-electronic warfare (EW), Global Positioning System (GLONASS) and space exploration.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Kiev aviation applied at the level of the First World War - some planes took off, found a single target and bombed (or downed). Russia also demonstrated the full range of air shock, which piloting the plane and its pilot are important and the most visible, but just one of many parts of ensuring the effective destruction of the enemy and their own security.</p><p></p><p>Still, the group of Russian videoconferencing in Syria is too small, the opponent does not have a complete modern system of air defense, aviation Western countries direct counter videoconferencing Russia does not have, and the Ukrainian army combat capabilities more correct to compare with the tribal militia of the Republic of Chad, than the armed forces of Russia . Therefore, to talk about the complete superiority over the potential enemy in the aviation component is not necessary - there is not enough material for comparison.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>The blow from the Caspian Sea</strong></span></p><p>But in regard to the naval component of the 7th of October, one Caspian Flotilla, one gulp 26-missiles "Caliber" bases LIH in Syria for a long time (and in its present form forever) removed from the sea expanses US Navy as a the real factor that can provide a so-called power projection (formerly called the "gunboat diplomacy").</p><p></p><p>What is the charm of the situation?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151007/1298382615.html"><img src="http://cdn11.img22.ria.ru/images/129832/59/1298325982.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p><a href="http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html">© RIA Novosti. Ministry of Defense</a> | <a href="http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713540">Buy graphic</a></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151007/1298382615.html">Nenashev, "Caliber" in Syria for the first time hit the target at a distance of 1,500 km</a></p><p>Firstly, Russia supplied missiles, similar to those used on October 7, for export. Their range was 300 km. The United States reasonably expected that the range of similar missiles, the armament of Russia can be higher (400 to 600 km). Volley Caspian flotilla covered targets at a distance of 1500 km, and it seems to have no limit. There have been reports that the actual firing range is 4000 km.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Secondly, it had not only the Caspian flotilla, but also the Black Sea and the Baltic Fleet were considered as a potential enemy forces that can only defend the corresponding areas of the coast, to catch smugglers and poachers, and conduct amphibious operations in their waters closed. BSF also provides rear of the Mediterranean squadron.</p><p></p><p>But as a real threat to the United States considered only provisionally deployed in the open ocean and attack squadron ships, as well as the forces of the Pacific and Northern fleets, which at least theoretically could escape to the open spaces of the Atlantic and the Pacific, in the event of a serious conflict.</p><p></p><p>Third, as a result, the United States turned out that their carrier strike group (CSG) is practically invulnerable. According to the calculations of American strategists to destroy one AUG Russian fleet was to provide a salvo at least a hundred missiles, which in one place had to focus almost all percussion vehicles (missile cruisers, destroyers, missiles and multi-purpose nuclear submarines) or the North Pacific fleets. Washington believed that each of the two Russian fleets are not locked tightly in closed waters in the worst case can cause some (perhaps even significant) damage to a CSG, after which his strike force has virtually ceased to exist, and the domination of the remaining US forces the world's oceans will not threaten anything.</p><p></p><p>Fourth, it was found out that in fact the firing range, even small ships - not 400 or 600, and is much more than a thousand kilometers.</p><p></p><p>That is, the Caspian Flotilla and the Black Sea Fleet is capable of not leaving their waters to destroy any enemy in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf and the Baltic Fleet is able to keep covered the North Sea, English Channel and part of the Norwegian Sea. Taking into account the possibility of the Northern Fleet to monitor the North Atlantic due to the reach of the enemy and the possibility of a similar Pacific Fleet drown all that floats in the Pacific Ocean north of Hawaii, the US Navy was unable to project a threat to the coast of Eurasia.</p><p></p><p>Since the missile salvo can be given a completely invisible ships near maritime zone with the removal of thousands of kilometers, American sailors will see rockets only at the moment of contact with their ship or on approach. Take effective measures of self-defense, they just do not have time.</p><p></p><p>Thus, sharply reduced the number of missiles in a salvo necessary to destroy AUG. Eliminating the need to strike it big surface ships in the Fleet distance effective retaliation. Next to each patrol, catching poachers in the Okhotsk and Caspian Seas (but capable of sudden sink an American aircraft carrier, peacefully grazing in three sea from this inconspicuous boats) United States simply can not.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>And here is the result</strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/radio_brief/20151008/1298899110.html"><img src="http://cdn14.img22.ria.ru/images/95809/39/958093975.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>© Photo courtesy of the press service of the Southern Military District</p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/radio_brief/20151008/1298899110.html">Opinion: punch the positions of the Caspian flotilla IG was a surprise for the United States</a></p><p>Until October 7, Washington was convinced that Russia is not able to effectively oppose US military action without the use of nuclear weapons. This, in fact, was based American audacity in international politics.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Americans did not hide that they use force, when they want to, simply because they adequately respond to them with conventional weapons no one in the state, and to start a nuclear war, Russia will not either because of Iraq or because of Syria, nor even because of Ukraine . They are cheeky teenager who often that everyone in the company is weaker than it easy run up to the conflict on the principle: "Give the date, if you can," in full confidence that no one can. And suddenly it became clear that they can. Russia can.</p><p></p><p>The Americans found themselves in an extremely difficult situation. The whole policy of recent years was based on the fact that at the critical moment, Washington is able to use force with relative impunity. Now it turned out that there is.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, projecting demonstrated fleet opportunities in aviation, the generals of the Pentagon has calculated that Russian VKS able to shoot targets in the United States without leaving Russian airspace. America for the first time in the history of felt defenseless against the conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298690760.html"><img src="http://cdn13.img22.ria.ru/images/129833/70/1298337054.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p><a href="http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html">© RIA Novosti. Ministry of Defense</a> | <a href="http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713525">Buy graphic</a></p><p><a href="http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298690760.html">Video Russian missile strikes on the IG has gained more than 2.5 million views</a></p><p>But the most dangerous thing for the US is not that Russia has the ability to cover their territory and the territory of its allies in Eurasia of the US Navy, which has now become pointless burden for taxpayers (who, in fact, eliminated as a military and political argument). And not even the fact that Moscow may, if desired, to shoot at the US conventional weapons to the safe disposal (just like the United States on Iraq).</p><p></p><p></p><p>The most important thing is to understand US allies. And most of them have long been faithful to the world hegemon only out of fear of its military capabilities, from which (in their opinion) no one can protect. On October 7, Russia has shown that it can. It has fundamentally changed the entire military-political situation in the world.</p><p></p><p>Of course, American alliances and coalitions will fall apart immediately, but the US will now be much more difficult to just command the allies, without taking into account their interests. Partners now have someone to leave. Washington would have to persuade and negotiate. Americans have long forgotten how to do it. Resources for satisfaction allies are not provided. Yes, and the arguments of the United States are weak. If you believe Obama, the United States the best because the best, and they all have to because they have to.</p><p></p><p>This argument was valid till 7th October 2015. Now this is a personal opinion of one person.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>РИА Новости <a href="http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html#ixzz3o5nhHmqH">http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html#ixzz3o5nhHmqH</a></p><p></p><p>Google Translate:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ARGENTVS, post: 1890048, member: 93"] [URL]http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html[/URL] [SIZE=5][B][URL='http://ria.ru/analytics/']OPINION[/URL][/B][/SIZE] [URL='http://ria.ru/export/rss2/analytics/index.xml']RSS[/URL] [SIZE=6][B]As one Russian salvo removed from the US fleet of marine spaces[/B][/SIZE] Subject: [URL='http://ria.ru/trend/russia_war_against_is_30092015/']Russian combat aircraft operation in Syria (522)[/URL] 17:20 08/10/2015 (updated: 19:01 08/10/2015) [URL='http://ria.ru/authors/rostislav_ischencko/']Rostislav Ishchenko [/URL][URL='http://ria.ru/analytics/20151008/1298905105.html#comments']143[/URL]209919188750 Before the volley, "caliber", made the Caspian Flotilla, Washington was convinced that Russia is not able to effectively oppose US military action without the use of nuclear weapons. This, in fact, was based American audacity in international politics, says [URL='http://ria.ru/authors/rostislav_ischencko/']Rostislav [/URL]Ishchenko. [IMG]http://cdn11.img22.ria.ru/images/129878/23/1298782307.jpg[/IMG] [URL='http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html']© RIA Novosti. Dmitry Vinogradov[/URL] | [URL='http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713674']Buy graphic[/URL] [SIZE=4][B]Rostislav Ishchenko, president of the Center of System Analysis and Forecasting[/B][/SIZE] Nobody paid attention to the fact that the Russian aviation group in Syria on quantitative structure and nomenclature of planes tried to bomb almost identical to the Donbass in 2014 Ukrainian Air Force. They constitute the basis of the same bombers Su-24 and Su-25. Only Ukrainian aircraft in a matter of weeks the miners were driven from heaven, hairdressers, taxi drivers and security guards supermarkets and Russia can not cause at least some damage to well-trained, and armed with long experience fighting terrorists IG. Moreover, it respectfully eschew warplanes Israel, Turkey, and all over the US "anti-terror" coalition as a whole. [URL='http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298899639.html'][IMG]http://cdn11.img22.ria.ru/images/129865/00/1298650007.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html']© RIA Novosti. Dmitry Vinogradov[/URL] | [URL='http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713650']Buy graphic[/URL] [URL='http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298899639.html']Defense Ministry: Russian VKS 27 attacked terrorist targets in Syria[/URL] This reflects both a high level of training of Russian pilots and features upgraded aircraft, to create even in the 70s of the last century, and the fact that the Russian video conferencing, unlike the Ukrainian Air Force, are truly coherent and effective tool that has, besides the impact air component, the integrated air defense system, radio-electronic warfare (EW), Global Positioning System (GLONASS) and space exploration. Kiev aviation applied at the level of the First World War - some planes took off, found a single target and bombed (or downed). Russia also demonstrated the full range of air shock, which piloting the plane and its pilot are important and the most visible, but just one of many parts of ensuring the effective destruction of the enemy and their own security. Still, the group of Russian videoconferencing in Syria is too small, the opponent does not have a complete modern system of air defense, aviation Western countries direct counter videoconferencing Russia does not have, and the Ukrainian army combat capabilities more correct to compare with the tribal militia of the Republic of Chad, than the armed forces of Russia . Therefore, to talk about the complete superiority over the potential enemy in the aviation component is not necessary - there is not enough material for comparison. [SIZE=4][B]The blow from the Caspian Sea[/B][/SIZE] But in regard to the naval component of the 7th of October, one Caspian Flotilla, one gulp 26-missiles "Caliber" bases LIH in Syria for a long time (and in its present form forever) removed from the sea expanses US Navy as a the real factor that can provide a so-called power projection (formerly called the "gunboat diplomacy"). What is the charm of the situation? [URL='http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151007/1298382615.html'][IMG]http://cdn11.img22.ria.ru/images/129832/59/1298325982.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html']© RIA Novosti. Ministry of Defense[/URL] | [URL='http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713540']Buy graphic[/URL] [URL='http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151007/1298382615.html']Nenashev, "Caliber" in Syria for the first time hit the target at a distance of 1,500 km[/URL] Firstly, Russia supplied missiles, similar to those used on October 7, for export. Their range was 300 km. The United States reasonably expected that the range of similar missiles, the armament of Russia can be higher (400 to 600 km). Volley Caspian flotilla covered targets at a distance of 1500 km, and it seems to have no limit. There have been reports that the actual firing range is 4000 km. Secondly, it had not only the Caspian flotilla, but also the Black Sea and the Baltic Fleet were considered as a potential enemy forces that can only defend the corresponding areas of the coast, to catch smugglers and poachers, and conduct amphibious operations in their waters closed. BSF also provides rear of the Mediterranean squadron. But as a real threat to the United States considered only provisionally deployed in the open ocean and attack squadron ships, as well as the forces of the Pacific and Northern fleets, which at least theoretically could escape to the open spaces of the Atlantic and the Pacific, in the event of a serious conflict. Third, as a result, the United States turned out that their carrier strike group (CSG) is practically invulnerable. According to the calculations of American strategists to destroy one AUG Russian fleet was to provide a salvo at least a hundred missiles, which in one place had to focus almost all percussion vehicles (missile cruisers, destroyers, missiles and multi-purpose nuclear submarines) or the North Pacific fleets. Washington believed that each of the two Russian fleets are not locked tightly in closed waters in the worst case can cause some (perhaps even significant) damage to a CSG, after which his strike force has virtually ceased to exist, and the domination of the remaining US forces the world's oceans will not threaten anything. Fourth, it was found out that in fact the firing range, even small ships - not 400 or 600, and is much more than a thousand kilometers. That is, the Caspian Flotilla and the Black Sea Fleet is capable of not leaving their waters to destroy any enemy in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf and the Baltic Fleet is able to keep covered the North Sea, English Channel and part of the Norwegian Sea. Taking into account the possibility of the Northern Fleet to monitor the North Atlantic due to the reach of the enemy and the possibility of a similar Pacific Fleet drown all that floats in the Pacific Ocean north of Hawaii, the US Navy was unable to project a threat to the coast of Eurasia. Since the missile salvo can be given a completely invisible ships near maritime zone with the removal of thousands of kilometers, American sailors will see rockets only at the moment of contact with their ship or on approach. Take effective measures of self-defense, they just do not have time. Thus, sharply reduced the number of missiles in a salvo necessary to destroy AUG. Eliminating the need to strike it big surface ships in the Fleet distance effective retaliation. Next to each patrol, catching poachers in the Okhotsk and Caspian Seas (but capable of sudden sink an American aircraft carrier, peacefully grazing in three sea from this inconspicuous boats) United States simply can not. [SIZE=4][B]And here is the result[/B][/SIZE] [URL='http://ria.ru/radio_brief/20151008/1298899110.html'][IMG]http://cdn14.img22.ria.ru/images/95809/39/958093975.jpg[/IMG][/URL] © Photo courtesy of the press service of the Southern Military District [URL='http://ria.ru/radio_brief/20151008/1298899110.html']Opinion: punch the positions of the Caspian flotilla IG was a surprise for the United States[/URL] Until October 7, Washington was convinced that Russia is not able to effectively oppose US military action without the use of nuclear weapons. This, in fact, was based American audacity in international politics. The Americans did not hide that they use force, when they want to, simply because they adequately respond to them with conventional weapons no one in the state, and to start a nuclear war, Russia will not either because of Iraq or because of Syria, nor even because of Ukraine . They are cheeky teenager who often that everyone in the company is weaker than it easy run up to the conflict on the principle: "Give the date, if you can," in full confidence that no one can. And suddenly it became clear that they can. Russia can. The Americans found themselves in an extremely difficult situation. The whole policy of recent years was based on the fact that at the critical moment, Washington is able to use force with relative impunity. Now it turned out that there is. Moreover, projecting demonstrated fleet opportunities in aviation, the generals of the Pentagon has calculated that Russian VKS able to shoot targets in the United States without leaving Russian airspace. America for the first time in the history of felt defenseless against the conventional (non-nuclear) weapons. [URL='http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298690760.html'][IMG]http://cdn13.img22.ria.ru/images/129833/70/1298337054.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://www.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html']© RIA Novosti. Ministry of Defense[/URL] | [URL='http://visualrian.ru/images/item/2713525']Buy graphic[/URL] [URL='http://ria.ru/syria/20151008/1298690760.html']Video Russian missile strikes on the IG has gained more than 2.5 million views[/URL] But the most dangerous thing for the US is not that Russia has the ability to cover their territory and the territory of its allies in Eurasia of the US Navy, which has now become pointless burden for taxpayers (who, in fact, eliminated as a military and political argument). And not even the fact that Moscow may, if desired, to shoot at the US conventional weapons to the safe disposal (just like the United States on Iraq). The most important thing is to understand US allies. And most of them have long been faithful to the world hegemon only out of fear of its military capabilities, from which (in their opinion) no one can protect. On October 7, Russia has shown that it can. It has fundamentally changed the entire military-political situation in the world. Of course, American alliances and coalitions will fall apart immediately, but the US will now be much more difficult to just command the allies, without taking into account their interests. Partners now have someone to leave. Washington would have to persuade and negotiate. Americans have long forgotten how to do it. Resources for satisfaction allies are not provided. Yes, and the arguments of the United States are weak. If you believe Obama, the United States the best because the best, and they all have to because they have to. This argument was valid till 7th October 2015. Now this is a personal opinion of one person. 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