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<blockquote data-quote="HernanSCL" data-source="post: 2923968" data-attributes="member: 31027"><p>24 F-16 C/D Block 25 compró Indonesia, los subió al estándar electrónico de block 50 denominándose Block50ID. La operación les salió 750 millones del 2011.</p><p></p><p><strong>Nov 17/11:</strong> <em>The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency announces Indonesia’s official request for 24 ex-USAF F-16C/D Block 25 fighters with 28 F100-PW-200 or F100-PW-220E engines (F100 eventually picked). American F-16C/D block 25 aircraft with AN/APG-68 radars and the MIL-STD-1760 databus offer big improvements over the current TNI-AU F-16A/B Block 15’s AN/APG-66 radar. The APG-68 radar has better aerial performance, and many more ground and maritime surveillance options. The radar & databus combination also allows the fighters to carry a much wider range of weapons, including medium-range air-to-air missiles and a wider set of ground attack weapons.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>All F-16s and engines are being granted from US stocks, along with refurbishment, and:</em></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Expanded Enhanced Fire Control (EEFC) or Commercial Fire Control, or Modular Mission Computers</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Raytheon Enhance Position Location Reporting Systems (EPLRS)</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Raytheon Situational Awareness Data Link (SADL), for cooperative operations. <a href="http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/sadl/">Works with EPLRS</a> </em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Northrop Grumman LN-260 GPS/INS navigation system (SPS version, non-PPS)</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>LAU-129A/A Launchers that can fire <a href="http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/amraam-deploying-developing-americas-mediumrange-airair-missile-updated-02512/">AIM-120 AMRAAM</a> air-to-air missiles, something its current F-16s can’t do.</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>AN/AAQ-33 Sniper or AN/AAQ-28 LITENING <a href="http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ATP-SE-LITENING-Strikes-as-USAF-Splits-Future-Targeting-Pod-Orders-06614/">advanced surveillance and targeting pods</a>. Northrop Grumman’s LITENING was invented in Israel, and Islamic countries have all picked Lockheed Martin’s Sniper pod so far.</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>ARC-164/186 Radios</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Terma’s AN/ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management Systems</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Raytheon’s AN/ALR-69 Radar Warning Receivers</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>BAE’s AN/ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispenser Systems</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD)</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Plus tools, support and test equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, and other U.S. Government and contractor support. At least 30 Indonesian pilots will receive F-16 training in the United States, and mobile training teams from the United States will train Indonesian aircraft maintainers.</em></li> </ul><p><em>A DSCA request is not a contract, and the Pentagon is currently working with the Indonesian Ministry of Defense to develop a letter of offer and acceptance. That’s expected to be done by early 2012, unless Congress actively moves to block the sale. The intent is to begin delivery of aircraft by July 2014, as requested by the government of Indonesia.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The estimated cost is up to $750 million. The USAF’s 309th Maintenance Wing at Hill AFB, UT will refurbish the planes and add any required upgrades, and Pratt & Whitney in East Hartford, CT will handle the engine overhauls. Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Indonesia. <a href="http://www.dsca.osd.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2011/Indonesia_11-48.pdf">US DSCA</a> | </em><a href="http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=66164"><em>Pentagon</em></a></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/indonesia-adding-f-16-falcon-fighters-to-join-flankers-07205/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Luego, al añadir soporte y armamento, la cifra cerró en 1.050 millones de dólares.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://2img.net/h/i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/Growler666/TS1625_AgusDwiAryanto_zps886f4aaa.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://www.ainonline.com/sites/ainonline.com/files/styles/ain30_fullwidth_large_2x/public/uploads/2017/12/web12-2017-4-indonesian-f-16.jpg?itok=LVQJO0on&timestamp=1513626477" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jP6Pakrbkzg/Xf7AbNpiL4I/AAAAAAABJrU/6loFLa3Hhzs0aWmGrqQyGx0MprYOWJfAwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/75430272_111877926801670_2329966012921121430_n.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Es un monto bajo para 24 unidades de ese nivel (reemplazas Deltas con holgura).</p><p>Gracias a ir a buscar y seleccionar lo que puede ofrecer AMARC.</p><p>Es una solución stop gap de buen nivel y de riesgo bajo: la industria estadounidense trabaja con altos estándares de calidad en sus trabajos de restauración.</p><p>Además, el F-16 tiene repuestos por todos lados.</p><p>Sinceramente, preferiría ir a un enfrentamiento en un F-16 Block 50ID que en un JF-17 con motor chino (con motor ruso mejora la cosa, pero la electrónica sigue siendo china). Como piloto tu montura te tiene que brindar confianza.</p><p>Como fuerza aérea, la montura debe ser sostenible logísticamente y te debe dar facilidad para interoperar.</p><p></p><p>Saludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HernanSCL, post: 2923968, member: 31027"] 24 F-16 C/D Block 25 compró Indonesia, los subió al estándar electrónico de block 50 denominándose Block50ID. La operación les salió 750 millones del 2011. [B]Nov 17/11:[/B] [I]The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency announces Indonesia’s official request for 24 ex-USAF F-16C/D Block 25 fighters with 28 F100-PW-200 or F100-PW-220E engines (F100 eventually picked). American F-16C/D block 25 aircraft with AN/APG-68 radars and the MIL-STD-1760 databus offer big improvements over the current TNI-AU F-16A/B Block 15’s AN/APG-66 radar. The APG-68 radar has better aerial performance, and many more ground and maritime surveillance options. The radar & databus combination also allows the fighters to carry a much wider range of weapons, including medium-range air-to-air missiles and a wider set of ground attack weapons. All F-16s and engines are being granted from US stocks, along with refurbishment, and:[/I] [LIST] [*][I]Expanded Enhanced Fire Control (EEFC) or Commercial Fire Control, or Modular Mission Computers[/I] [*][I]Raytheon Enhance Position Location Reporting Systems (EPLRS)[/I] [*][I]Raytheon Situational Awareness Data Link (SADL), for cooperative operations. [URL='http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/sadl/']Works with EPLRS[/URL] [/I] [*][I]Northrop Grumman LN-260 GPS/INS navigation system (SPS version, non-PPS)[/I] [*][I]LAU-129A/A Launchers that can fire [URL='http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/amraam-deploying-developing-americas-mediumrange-airair-missile-updated-02512/']AIM-120 AMRAAM[/URL] air-to-air missiles, something its current F-16s can’t do.[/I] [*][I]AN/AAQ-33 Sniper or AN/AAQ-28 LITENING [URL='http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ATP-SE-LITENING-Strikes-as-USAF-Splits-Future-Targeting-Pod-Orders-06614/']advanced surveillance and targeting pods[/URL]. Northrop Grumman’s LITENING was invented in Israel, and Islamic countries have all picked Lockheed Martin’s Sniper pod so far.[/I] [*][I]ARC-164/186 Radios[/I] [*][I]Terma’s AN/ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management Systems[/I] [*][I]Raytheon’s AN/ALR-69 Radar Warning Receivers[/I] [*][I]BAE’s AN/ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispenser Systems[/I] [*][I]Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD)[/I] [*][I]Plus tools, support and test equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, and other U.S. Government and contractor support. At least 30 Indonesian pilots will receive F-16 training in the United States, and mobile training teams from the United States will train Indonesian aircraft maintainers.[/I] [/LIST] [I]A DSCA request is not a contract, and the Pentagon is currently working with the Indonesian Ministry of Defense to develop a letter of offer and acceptance. That’s expected to be done by early 2012, unless Congress actively moves to block the sale. The intent is to begin delivery of aircraft by July 2014, as requested by the government of Indonesia. The estimated cost is up to $750 million. The USAF’s 309th Maintenance Wing at Hill AFB, UT will refurbish the planes and add any required upgrades, and Pratt & Whitney in East Hartford, CT will handle the engine overhauls. Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Indonesia. [URL='http://www.dsca.osd.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2011/Indonesia_11-48.pdf']US DSCA[/URL] | [/I][URL='http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=66164'][I]Pentagon[/I][/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/indonesia-adding-f-16-falcon-fighters-to-join-flankers-07205/[/URL] Luego, al añadir soporte y armamento, la cifra cerró en 1.050 millones de dólares. [IMG]https://2img.net/h/i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/Growler666/TS1625_AgusDwiAryanto_zps886f4aaa.png[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.ainonline.com/sites/ainonline.com/files/styles/ain30_fullwidth_large_2x/public/uploads/2017/12/web12-2017-4-indonesian-f-16.jpg?itok=LVQJO0on×tamp=1513626477[/IMG] [IMG]https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jP6Pakrbkzg/Xf7AbNpiL4I/AAAAAAABJrU/6loFLa3Hhzs0aWmGrqQyGx0MprYOWJfAwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/75430272_111877926801670_2329966012921121430_n.jpg[/IMG] Es un monto bajo para 24 unidades de ese nivel (reemplazas Deltas con holgura). Gracias a ir a buscar y seleccionar lo que puede ofrecer AMARC. Es una solución stop gap de buen nivel y de riesgo bajo: la industria estadounidense trabaja con altos estándares de calidad en sus trabajos de restauración. Además, el F-16 tiene repuestos por todos lados. Sinceramente, preferiría ir a un enfrentamiento en un F-16 Block 50ID que en un JF-17 con motor chino (con motor ruso mejora la cosa, pero la electrónica sigue siendo china). Como piloto tu montura te tiene que brindar confianza. Como fuerza aérea, la montura debe ser sostenible logísticamente y te debe dar facilidad para interoperar. Saludos [/QUOTE]
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