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<blockquote data-quote="HernanSCL" data-source="post: 3197635" data-attributes="member: 31027"><p>Un poco de precios</p><p></p><p>(Oferta Sueca a Croacia, 2019)</p><p></p><p>Price could present a serious obstacle to closing a deal with the Swedish company. <strong>SAAB offered 12 new JAS 39s for EUR 903 million plus 30 million for armaments and infrastructure</strong>, but at the same time sent signals that it is prepared to present a more affordable offer.</p><p></p><p>(Oferta Estadounidense 1 a Croacia, 2019)</p><p></p><p>According to unofficial sources, one of the options is making an arrangement with USA on <strong>donation of F-16 C/D Block 25s which would be upgraded to Block 50/52 and undergo a service life extension program (SLEP), which would extend life to 12,000 hours</strong>. <strong>The jets in question are some 30 years old and currently in USA. According to estimates, the whole package, including infrastructure and logistics, could cost some USD 600 million</strong>, which is about 100 million more compared to Israel's offer.</p><p></p><p>(Oferta Estadounidense 2 a Croacia: nuevos, y Oferta upgradeando los aviones griegos, 2019)</p><p></p><h4>Greek offer</h4><p></p><p>According to our interlocutors, US Embassy representatives proposed to ranking Croatian Defense Ministry officials in 2017 that Croatia should pick F-16 and later pick the country (USA or some other country) from which to buy new or used F-16s. According to our interlocutors, Embassy representatives proposed that, if Croatia opts for new jets, it should buy 6 to 8 jets in the first phase, and additional 4 to 6 later<strong>.</strong> USA offered a different option - upgrade of used F-16 C/D Blocks to F-16V, with characteristics very similar to the latest F-16 Block 70/72<strong>. </strong>The biggest obstacle in this case is price. It is estimated that such an arrangement could cost Croatia about <strong>USD 800 million</strong>, which is enough to buy new Gripens. The F-16s that Greece offered could be reconsidered, which is an offer that USA supported wholeheartedly.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://euractiv.jutarnji.hr/euractiv/croatia-is-expecting-a-negative-response-on-sale-of-fighter-jets-from-israel-tomorrow-8258348[/URL]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sacando en limpio:</p><p></p><p>500 millones de dólares por 12 F-16 C/D Block 40 Barak Israelíes.</p><p>600 millones de dólares por 12 F-16 C/D Block 25 donados ex USAF llevados a V</p><p>800 millones de dólares por 12 F-16 C/D Block 30 griegos llevados a V</p><p>933 millones de euros por 12 JAS-39C/D de nueva construcción.</p><p></p><p>Lo que ganó:</p><p></p><p>999 millones de euros por 12 Rafale F3 usados.</p><p></p><p>Saludos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HernanSCL, post: 3197635, member: 31027"] Un poco de precios (Oferta Sueca a Croacia, 2019) Price could present a serious obstacle to closing a deal with the Swedish company. [B]SAAB offered 12 new JAS 39s for EUR 903 million plus 30 million for armaments and infrastructure[/B], but at the same time sent signals that it is prepared to present a more affordable offer. (Oferta Estadounidense 1 a Croacia, 2019) According to unofficial sources, one of the options is making an arrangement with USA on [B]donation of F-16 C/D Block 25s which would be upgraded to Block 50/52 and undergo a service life extension program (SLEP), which would extend life to 12,000 hours[/B]. [B]The jets in question are some 30 years old and currently in USA. According to estimates, the whole package, including infrastructure and logistics, could cost some USD 600 million[/B], which is about 100 million more compared to Israel's offer. (Oferta Estadounidense 2 a Croacia: nuevos, y Oferta upgradeando los aviones griegos, 2019) [HEADING=3]Greek offer[/HEADING] According to our interlocutors, US Embassy representatives proposed to ranking Croatian Defense Ministry officials in 2017 that Croatia should pick F-16 and later pick the country (USA or some other country) from which to buy new or used F-16s. According to our interlocutors, Embassy representatives proposed that, if Croatia opts for new jets, it should buy 6 to 8 jets in the first phase, and additional 4 to 6 later[B].[/B] USA offered a different option - upgrade of used F-16 C/D Blocks to F-16V, with characteristics very similar to the latest F-16 Block 70/72[B]. [/B]The biggest obstacle in this case is price. It is estimated that such an arrangement could cost Croatia about [B]USD 800 million[/B], which is enough to buy new Gripens. The F-16s that Greece offered could be reconsidered, which is an offer that USA supported wholeheartedly. [URL unfurl="true"]https://euractiv.jutarnji.hr/euractiv/croatia-is-expecting-a-negative-response-on-sale-of-fighter-jets-from-israel-tomorrow-8258348[/URL] Sacando en limpio: 500 millones de dólares por 12 F-16 C/D Block 40 Barak Israelíes. 600 millones de dólares por 12 F-16 C/D Block 25 donados ex USAF llevados a V 800 millones de dólares por 12 F-16 C/D Block 30 griegos llevados a V 933 millones de euros por 12 JAS-39C/D de nueva construcción. Lo que ganó: 999 millones de euros por 12 Rafale F3 usados. Saludos [/QUOTE]
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