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Tumbledown, Tte Vazquez y sus protagonistas (testimonios, documentos y hechos)
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<blockquote data-quote="Andy Green" data-source="post: 1689090"><p>La referencia que tengo es el excelente libro de Mike Seears sobre el tema de Tumbledown. He pasado el fin de semana leyendolo. El ha tenido bastante contacto con Vazquez en recientes años, y parece que hay mucho que se conta oficialmente parece lejos de la realidad.</p><p></p><p>Sin embargo, aqui hay dos referencias del libro:</p><p></p><p><em>"While planning the colloquium I had also compiled and sent to Bernard many of the twenty-nine pages of comments and sixty-eight of amendments for the manuscript of his unique book Malvinas-Malvinas: An Unfinished Business. I completed these shortly after my return to Oslo. They included my thoughts on Iluminados por el fuego:</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The night battle scenes are poor. The terrain is open, but the Tumbledown battle took place mainly in enclosed rocky channels and amongst its crags. The British troops appear to be paratroopers (it was 2 Para who fought in the adjacent Wireless Ridge battle that same night on 13-14 June) with the paratrooper distinctive steel helmet. However it was the Scots Guards (not paratroopers) who fought in the battle against the 5th Marine Infantry Battalion . <u><strong>The Scots Guards also wore berets, not steel helmets, throughout the battle</strong></u>. Maybe the filmmakers were trying to make us believe that it was actually the Gurkhas in the limited battle scenes. After all, the Gurkhas are the only British Task Force unit mentioned in the film and they did, in fact, wear steel helmets during the Tumbledown battle!"</em></p><p></p><p>Seear, Mike (2012-07-27). Return to Tumbledown: A Malvinas-Malvinas Post-War Journal (Kindle Locations 652-654). Typhoon Media Ltd. Kindle Edition.</p><p></p><p>Y</p><p><em></em></p><p><em>"Another 2007 Right Flank pilgrim was Ian Morton. In 1982 he was a twenty year-old Guardsman and 3 Platoon’s sniper. More than two years post-Pilgrimage he gave me, after my request, a gripping personal story of the fighting. It began in unorthodox fashion: The night was very cold and dark with a hint of snow in the air. My thoughts were racing with memories of all my past training and what would now be expected of me in this, my first experience of combat. I had wanted to be a soldier since a child and this was it, a chance to prove myself in combat knowing this night would remain with me forever. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>As we approached the start line, I looked left and right and saw the two marker posts on which were hanging lamps with red lights. These could be seen only from our approach and not by the Argentines. Our platoon had been tabbing in single file via Goat Ridge to this location where we formed an extended line. After the enemy’s direction had been pointed out, Mr Lawrence, our platoon commander, came over to us and said, ‘<strong><u>Right lads, take your tin pots off and put your berets on</u></strong>. Let’s show these bastards who they’re dealing with!’ So we changed headgear , laying out our tin pots (helmets) in a straight line. Believe it or not, we then sat on these and had a smoke break with our last cigarette before battle. Nobody spoke. Even the non-smokers had a cigarette. Although crazy, this was the best smoke break of my life. Once finished, everyone stood up and the order was given, ‘Fix bayonets. Prepare to move. Move!’ Then we crossed the start line and began our advance to contact. It is difficult to explain all my many thoughts, but these did include a strange mixture of pride, dread and sense of invincibility. Nothing could stop us.</em></p><p></p><p>Seear, Mike (2012-07-27). Return to Tumbledown: A Malvinas-Malvinas Post-War Journal (Kindle Locations 1698-1702). Typhoon Media Ltd. Kindle Edition.</p><p></p><p>Saludos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andy Green, post: 1689090"] La referencia que tengo es el excelente libro de Mike Seears sobre el tema de Tumbledown. He pasado el fin de semana leyendolo. El ha tenido bastante contacto con Vazquez en recientes años, y parece que hay mucho que se conta oficialmente parece lejos de la realidad. Sin embargo, aqui hay dos referencias del libro: [I]"While planning the colloquium I had also compiled and sent to Bernard many of the twenty-nine pages of comments and sixty-eight of amendments for the manuscript of his unique book Malvinas-Malvinas: An Unfinished Business. I completed these shortly after my return to Oslo. They included my thoughts on Iluminados por el fuego: The night battle scenes are poor. The terrain is open, but the Tumbledown battle took place mainly in enclosed rocky channels and amongst its crags. The British troops appear to be paratroopers (it was 2 Para who fought in the adjacent Wireless Ridge battle that same night on 13-14 June) with the paratrooper distinctive steel helmet. However it was the Scots Guards (not paratroopers) who fought in the battle against the 5th Marine Infantry Battalion . [U][B]The Scots Guards also wore berets, not steel helmets, throughout the battle[/B][/U]. Maybe the filmmakers were trying to make us believe that it was actually the Gurkhas in the limited battle scenes. After all, the Gurkhas are the only British Task Force unit mentioned in the film and they did, in fact, wear steel helmets during the Tumbledown battle!"[/I] Seear, Mike (2012-07-27). Return to Tumbledown: A Malvinas-Malvinas Post-War Journal (Kindle Locations 652-654). Typhoon Media Ltd. Kindle Edition. Y [I] "Another 2007 Right Flank pilgrim was Ian Morton. In 1982 he was a twenty year-old Guardsman and 3 Platoon’s sniper. More than two years post-Pilgrimage he gave me, after my request, a gripping personal story of the fighting. It began in unorthodox fashion: The night was very cold and dark with a hint of snow in the air. My thoughts were racing with memories of all my past training and what would now be expected of me in this, my first experience of combat. I had wanted to be a soldier since a child and this was it, a chance to prove myself in combat knowing this night would remain with me forever. As we approached the start line, I looked left and right and saw the two marker posts on which were hanging lamps with red lights. These could be seen only from our approach and not by the Argentines. Our platoon had been tabbing in single file via Goat Ridge to this location where we formed an extended line. After the enemy’s direction had been pointed out, Mr Lawrence, our platoon commander, came over to us and said, ‘[B][U]Right lads, take your tin pots off and put your berets on[/U][/B]. Let’s show these bastards who they’re dealing with!’ So we changed headgear , laying out our tin pots (helmets) in a straight line. Believe it or not, we then sat on these and had a smoke break with our last cigarette before battle. Nobody spoke. Even the non-smokers had a cigarette. Although crazy, this was the best smoke break of my life. Once finished, everyone stood up and the order was given, ‘Fix bayonets. Prepare to move. Move!’ Then we crossed the start line and began our advance to contact. It is difficult to explain all my many thoughts, but these did include a strange mixture of pride, dread and sense of invincibility. Nothing could stop us.[/I] Seear, Mike (2012-07-27). Return to Tumbledown: A Malvinas-Malvinas Post-War Journal (Kindle Locations 1698-1702). Typhoon Media Ltd. Kindle Edition. Saludos. [/QUOTE]
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