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<blockquote data-quote="Shandor" data-source="post: 1840643" data-attributes="member: 50"><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>LUGER LANGE PISTOLE 08 WITH TROMMEL MAGAZINE</strong></span> </p><p><a href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97540"><img src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/23.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p><strong>LUGER LANGE PISTOLE 08 WITH TROMMEL MAGAZINE</strong></p><p>The <em>Lange Pistole 08 </em>or <em>Artillery Luger</em> was approved for service in June 1913 and went into production in 1913, with an initial order of 75,000 made, only 23,000 had been made by the Small Arms Factory at Erfurt by the outbreak of the First World War. The production of the long barrelled <em><a href="http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/112913847618/georg-luger-today-marks-the-166th-anniversary-of">Lugers</a> </em>was moved to DWM where between 1914 and 1918 nearly 175,000 pistols were made.</p><p>Famously the <em>Artillery Luger</em> has a number of additional features when compared to the original <em><a href="http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/112913847618/georg-luger-today-marks-the-166th-anniversary-of">P.08 Luger</a></em>. With a 190mm long barrel, almost double the length of the standard issue <em>Luger </em>and a rear tangent sight graduated out to 800m. When combined with its accompanying wooden stock the weapon was intended to act as a personal defence weapon for artillerymen and machine gun crews who could not be encumbered with rifles. They were also well liked by German airmen during the early phases of the war.</p><p><strong><em>C&Rsenal run a LP.08 and a Trommel Magazine through its paces</em></strong></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]JqTCs8BGDu0[/MEDIA]</p><p>Following complaints about the standard 8-round magazine capacity an improved drum magazine which became known as the<em> Trommelmagazin</em> was developed. This 32-round magazine was developed by <em>Friedrich Blum </em>an Austro-Hungarian. The new magazines were manufactured by the German toy manufacturer <em>Gebrude Bing AG</em> of Nuremberg. Colloquially known as the ‘snail magazine’ they were also adapted to be used by the <em><a href="http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/56457527911/inventors-and-their-guns-pt-2-firearms-designers">MP18 submachine gun</a></em>.</p><p><a href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_inline_nrc828dYcv1qapn73_500.jpg"><img src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_inline_nrc828dYcv1qapn73_500.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p><em>German stormtrooper with an MP18 and Trommelmagazin (<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:France1918.jpg">source</a>)</em></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97538"><img src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_nraq15DUin1s57vgxo1_1280.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>The <em>Luger</em> pictured above (see image #1) combines the Trommelmagazin with the <em>Artillery</em> <em>Luger’s</em> wooden shoulder stock. Nearly 1 million snail magazines were made before the end of the war. <a href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97536"><img src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_nraq15DUin1s57vgxo2_r1_1280.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a> <a href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97535"><img src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_nraq15DUin1s57vgxo3_r1_1280.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>Both the <em>MP-18</em> and the <em>Artillery Luger </em>proved popular with German Stormtroops (Sturmbataillone) as they offered high magazine capacity in a compact package. The <a href="http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/112913847618/georg-luger-today-marks-the-166th-anniversary-of"><em>Lange Pistole 08</em></a> continued in service after the war remaining in service with the Weimar Republic’s military and later the Nazi Wehrmacht.</p><p><strong>Sources:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://imgur.com/gallery/NweAxku">Image One Source</a></p><p><a href="http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/militaria/model-gun-company-mgc-luger-snail-drum-or-trommel-magazine/prod_3325.html">Image Two Source</a></p><p><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Persian_Lange_Pistole_08_1699.jpg">Image Three Source</a></p><p>The Ultimate Luger, <em>Guns & Ammo</em>, P. Schreier (<a href="http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940663/ultimate%20luger.pdf">source</a>)</p><p><em>Military Small Arms of the 20th Century</em>, I.V. Hogg & J. Weeks (1985)</p><p><em><img src="http://i0.wp.com/militaryhistorynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/scan0048.jpg?zoom=1.5&resize=100%2C124" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Matthew Moss is a British postgraduate student specializing in military history and small arms. He also runs <a href="http://historicalfirearms.info/">historicalfirearms.info</a>, a site that looks at the history, development and use of firearms as well as wider military history. <a href="https://twitter.com/historicfirearm">Follow him on twitter</a>.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shandor, post: 1840643, member: 50"] [SIZE=6][B]LUGER LANGE PISTOLE 08 WITH TROMMEL MAGAZINE[/B][/SIZE] [URL='https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97540'][IMG]https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/23.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [B]LUGER LANGE PISTOLE 08 WITH TROMMEL MAGAZINE[/B] The [I]Lange Pistole 08 [/I]or [I]Artillery Luger[/I] was approved for service in June 1913 and went into production in 1913, with an initial order of 75,000 made, only 23,000 had been made by the Small Arms Factory at Erfurt by the outbreak of the First World War. The production of the long barrelled [I][URL='http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/112913847618/georg-luger-today-marks-the-166th-anniversary-of']Lugers[/URL] [/I]was moved to DWM where between 1914 and 1918 nearly 175,000 pistols were made. Famously the [I]Artillery Luger[/I] has a number of additional features when compared to the original [I][URL='http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/112913847618/georg-luger-today-marks-the-166th-anniversary-of']P.08 Luger[/URL][/I]. With a 190mm long barrel, almost double the length of the standard issue [I]Luger [/I]and a rear tangent sight graduated out to 800m. When combined with its accompanying wooden stock the weapon was intended to act as a personal defence weapon for artillerymen and machine gun crews who could not be encumbered with rifles. They were also well liked by German airmen during the early phases of the war. [B][I]C&Rsenal run a LP.08 and a Trommel Magazine through its paces[/I][/B] [MEDIA=youtube]JqTCs8BGDu0[/MEDIA] Following complaints about the standard 8-round magazine capacity an improved drum magazine which became known as the[I] Trommelmagazin[/I] was developed. This 32-round magazine was developed by [I]Friedrich Blum [/I]an Austro-Hungarian. The new magazines were manufactured by the German toy manufacturer [I]Gebrude Bing AG[/I] of Nuremberg. Colloquially known as the ‘snail magazine’ they were also adapted to be used by the [I][URL='http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/56457527911/inventors-and-their-guns-pt-2-firearms-designers']MP18 submachine gun[/URL][/I]. [URL='https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_inline_nrc828dYcv1qapn73_500.jpg'][IMG]https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_inline_nrc828dYcv1qapn73_500.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [I]German stormtrooper with an MP18 and Trommelmagazin ([URL='https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:France1918.jpg']source[/URL])[/I] [URL='https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97538'][IMG]https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_nraq15DUin1s57vgxo1_1280.png[/IMG][/URL] The [I]Luger[/I] pictured above (see image #1) combines the Trommelmagazin with the [I]Artillery[/I] [I]Luger’s[/I] wooden shoulder stock. Nearly 1 million snail magazines were made before the end of the war. [URL='https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97536'][IMG]https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_nraq15DUin1s57vgxo2_r1_1280.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='https://www.warhistoryonline.com/?attachment_id=97535'][IMG]https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_nraq15DUin1s57vgxo3_r1_1280.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Both the [I]MP-18[/I] and the [I]Artillery Luger [/I]proved popular with German Stormtroops (Sturmbataillone) as they offered high magazine capacity in a compact package. The [URL='http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/112913847618/georg-luger-today-marks-the-166th-anniversary-of'][I]Lange Pistole 08[/I][/URL] continued in service after the war remaining in service with the Weimar Republic’s military and later the Nazi Wehrmacht. [B]Sources:[/B] [URL='http://imgur.com/gallery/NweAxku']Image One Source[/URL] [URL='http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/militaria/model-gun-company-mgc-luger-snail-drum-or-trommel-magazine/prod_3325.html']Image Two Source[/URL] [URL='https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Persian_Lange_Pistole_08_1699.jpg']Image Three Source[/URL] The Ultimate Luger, [I]Guns & Ammo[/I], P. Schreier ([URL='http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940663/ultimate%20luger.pdf']source[/URL]) [I]Military Small Arms of the 20th Century[/I], I.V. Hogg & J. Weeks (1985) [I][IMG]http://i0.wp.com/militaryhistorynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/scan0048.jpg?zoom=1.5&resize=100%2C124[/IMG]Matthew Moss is a British postgraduate student specializing in military history and small arms. He also runs [URL='http://historicalfirearms.info/']historicalfirearms.info[/URL], a site that looks at the history, development and use of firearms as well as wider military history. [URL='https://twitter.com/historicfirearm']Follow him on twitter[/URL].[/I] [/QUOTE]
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