20:40 - POLITICA I ANIVERSARIO DE LA GUERRA
Prestigioso diario británico califica como “justo” el reclamo argentino sobre las Malvinas
The Guardian publicó hoy una editorial - firmada por el periodista Richard Gott - en la que admite que las islas fueron “robadas” por Gran Bretaña durante una era de “dramática expansión colonial”. Y remarca que “la soberanía en algún momento tendrá que ser discutida en la mesa de negociaciones".
El periódico inglés The Guardian publicó hoy que las Islas Malvinas fueron "robadas" por Gran Bretaña "durante una era de dramática expansión colonial británica" y calificó de "justo y necesario" el reiterado reclamo de Argentina por la soberanía del archipiélago.
En un editorial firmado por el destacado periodista británico Richard Gott, se afirmó que la soberanía de las Malvinas "en algún momento tendrá que ser discutida en la mesa de negociaciones", según informó Ansa.
Ese artículo, titulado "El reclamo de Argentina por las Malvinas sigue siendo bueno", el reportero indicó que a pesar del deseo de los isleños, el problema por la soberanía del archipiélago, actualmente en manos británicas, "en algún momento deberá volver a tratarse".
"La gente muchas veces me pregunta por qué los argentinos hacen tanto problema por las Malvinas. La respuesta es simple. Esas islas pertenecen a Argentina. Ocurre que fueron robadas, ocupadas, pobladas y defendidas por Gran Bretaña", destacó el periodista.
"El reclamo argentino es perfectamente válido, y su disputa con Gran Bretaña nunca se acallará. Debido a que gran parte de América Latina está cayendo en manos del nacionalismo de izquierda, el gobierno en Buenos Aires disfrutará de un mayor apoyo de su retórica en el continente", señaló el periodista.
El periodista agregó que "todos los gobiernos de Argentina, sin importar su estirpe, continuarán reclamando a las Malvinas, de la misma forma que los gobiernos (serbios) en Belgrado reclamarán Kosovo", comparó.
El reportero británico recordó además que las Malvinas "fueron robadas por Gran Bretaña en enero de 1833, durante una era de dramática expansión colonial británica".
Por su parte, el periódico conservador inglés The Times llamó hoy al gobierno del premier Tony Blair a "reparar relaciones" con Argentina por las Islas Malvinas, cuando se conmemoran 25 años desde el inicio del conflicto bélico en el Atlántico sur.
En un extenso editorial publicado este lunes, el matutino con más historia de Gran Bretaña afirmó que "es hora de reparar relaciones (con Argentina), que en la actualidad son razonables, pero no mucho más".
"Necesitamos ver más intercambios y un fin a las hostilidades que continúan. Una mejoría en las relaciones bilaterales servirán para mejorar la confianza de los isleños y sus perspectivas a futuro", completó el editorial
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Argentina's claim on the Malvinas is still a good one
Regardless of the islanders' wishes, the issue of sovereignty will at some point have to get back on the agenda
Richard Gott
Monday April 2, 2007
The Guardian
Nearly 40 years ago, in November 1968, I travelled to the Malvinas with a group of diplomats in what was Britain's first and last attempt to get shot of the islands. Lord Chalfont, then a minister at the Foreign Office, was the leader of this expedition. He had the unenviable task of trying to persuade the 2,000 islanders that the British empire might not last for ever - and that they should start to entertain the notion they might be better off being friendly to their near-neighbour, Argentina, which had long claimed the islands. This was the moment when Britain was abandoning its "east of Suez" policy for financial reasons, and thinking of ways of winding up its residual empire. We had already forcibly deported the inhabitants of Diego Garcia in 1967 without much hostile publicity, and settled them in Mauritius and the Seychelles, handing over their islands to the Americans to build a gigantic air base. The Malvinas were next on the list. Maybe the islanders could be paid to set up sheep farms in New Zealand.
Over 10 days, we visited just about every farm and homestead in the two principal islands. We were greeted everywhere - and we could see the slogans and the union flag from the air before we landed - with the same messages: "Chalfont Go Home" and sometimes "We Want To Stay British". The islanders were adamant. They wanted nothing to do with Argentina, and Chalfont left them with a promise that nothing would happen without their agreement. Fourteen years later, in 1982, Britain and Argentina were at war over the islands, and nearly a thousand people lost their lives. Today we are invited to recall the 25th anniversary of that event, and the Argentinian government has reminded us of its claim, pulling out of the 1995 agreement about joint oil exploration that had been fondly embraced by the Foreign Office as an alternative to discussing anything as conflictive as sovereignty.
People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Malvinas belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away, and because much of Latin America is now falling into the hands of the nationalist left, the government in Buenos Aires will enjoy growing rhetorical support in the continent (and indeed elsewhere, from the current government in Iraq, for example), to the increasing discomfiture of Britain. All governments in Argentina, of whatever stripe, will continue to claim the Malvinas, just as governments in Belgrade will always lay claim to Kosovo.
The Malvinas were seized for Britain in January 1833 during an era of dramatic colonial expansion. Captain John Onslow of HMS Clio had instructions "to exercise the rights of sovereignty" over the islands, and he ordered the Argentinian commander to haul down his flag and withdraw his forces. Settlers from Argentina were replaced by those from Britain and elsewhere, notably Gibraltar. Britain and Argentina have disagreed ever since about the rights and wrongs of British occupation, and for much of the time the British authorities have been aware of the relative weakness of their case.
An item in the Public Record Office refers to a Foreign Office document of 1940 entitled "Offer made by His Majesty's government to reunify the Malvinas Islands with Argentina and to agree to a lease-back". Though its title survives, the document itself has been embargoed until 2015, although it may well exist in another archive. It was presumably an offer thrown out to the pro-German government of Argentina at the time, to keep them onside at a difficult moment in the war, though perhaps it was a draft or a jeu d'esprit dreamt up in the office.
The record suggests that successive UK governments have considered the British claim to the islands to be weak, and some have favoured negotiations. Recently released documents recall that James Callaghan, when foreign secretary in the 1970s, noted that "we must yield some ground and ... be prepared to discuss a lease-back arrangement". The secretary of the cabinet pointed out that "there are many ways in which Argentina could act against us, including invasion of the islands ... and we are not in a position to reinforce and defend the islands as a long-term commitment. The alternative of standing firm and taking the consequences is accordingly not practicable."
Of course, some people argue that Britain's physical possession of the islands, and its declared intention to hold them against all comers, makes its claim superior to Argentina's. Some believe that the Argentine invasion of the islands in 1982, and their subsequent forced retreat, in some way invalidates their original claim. Britain, above all, owes some debt to the heirs to the settlers who were originally sent there, a debt recognised in the Foreign Office mantra that, in all dealings with Argentina about the islands' future, the wishes of the islanders will be "paramount". Yet no such debt was recognised in the case of the inhabitants of Diego Garcia, perhaps because Britain inherited them from the French rather than planting the settlers themselves.
Ironically, the Malvinas islanders are the outcome of a 19th-century scheme of settlement not very different from the experience of Argentina in the same century, which brought in settlers from Italy, Germany, England and Wales, and planted them on land from which the native Indians had been cleared and exterminated. The record of the islanders looks rather cleaner by comparison. Yet the Argentinian claim is still a good one, and it will never go away. At some stage, sovereignty and lease-back will have to be on the agenda again, regardless of the wishes of the islanders. Ideally, the Malvinas should be included in a wider post-colonial cleanup of ancient territories. This would rid Britain of responsibility for Northern Ireland (almost gone), Gibraltar (under discussion), and for Diego Garcia (de facto given to the Americans), and anywhere else that anyone can still remember.
This post-colonial policy should have been adopted many years ago (and perhaps Harold Wilson's government was groping towards this end in the 1960s when Denis Healey abandoned British commitments east of Suez, and when Chalfont was sent to Puerto Argentino), and it should at least have been considered when we abandoned Hong Kong in the 1990s. Yet the strength of Blair's imperial revivalism, forever echoed in the popular press, suggests that this prospect is as far away as it was in 1982.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Malvinas/story/0,,2047980,00.html#article_continue
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Prestigioso diario británico califica como “justo” el reclamo argentino sobre las Malvinas
The Guardian publicó hoy una editorial - firmada por el periodista Richard Gott - en la que admite que las islas fueron “robadas” por Gran Bretaña durante una era de “dramática expansión colonial”. Y remarca que “la soberanía en algún momento tendrá que ser discutida en la mesa de negociaciones".
El periódico inglés The Guardian publicó hoy que las Islas Malvinas fueron "robadas" por Gran Bretaña "durante una era de dramática expansión colonial británica" y calificó de "justo y necesario" el reiterado reclamo de Argentina por la soberanía del archipiélago.
En un editorial firmado por el destacado periodista británico Richard Gott, se afirmó que la soberanía de las Malvinas "en algún momento tendrá que ser discutida en la mesa de negociaciones", según informó Ansa.
Ese artículo, titulado "El reclamo de Argentina por las Malvinas sigue siendo bueno", el reportero indicó que a pesar del deseo de los isleños, el problema por la soberanía del archipiélago, actualmente en manos británicas, "en algún momento deberá volver a tratarse".
"La gente muchas veces me pregunta por qué los argentinos hacen tanto problema por las Malvinas. La respuesta es simple. Esas islas pertenecen a Argentina. Ocurre que fueron robadas, ocupadas, pobladas y defendidas por Gran Bretaña", destacó el periodista.
"El reclamo argentino es perfectamente válido, y su disputa con Gran Bretaña nunca se acallará. Debido a que gran parte de América Latina está cayendo en manos del nacionalismo de izquierda, el gobierno en Buenos Aires disfrutará de un mayor apoyo de su retórica en el continente", señaló el periodista.
El periodista agregó que "todos los gobiernos de Argentina, sin importar su estirpe, continuarán reclamando a las Malvinas, de la misma forma que los gobiernos (serbios) en Belgrado reclamarán Kosovo", comparó.
El reportero británico recordó además que las Malvinas "fueron robadas por Gran Bretaña en enero de 1833, durante una era de dramática expansión colonial británica".
Por su parte, el periódico conservador inglés The Times llamó hoy al gobierno del premier Tony Blair a "reparar relaciones" con Argentina por las Islas Malvinas, cuando se conmemoran 25 años desde el inicio del conflicto bélico en el Atlántico sur.
En un extenso editorial publicado este lunes, el matutino con más historia de Gran Bretaña afirmó que "es hora de reparar relaciones (con Argentina), que en la actualidad son razonables, pero no mucho más".
"Necesitamos ver más intercambios y un fin a las hostilidades que continúan. Una mejoría en las relaciones bilaterales servirán para mejorar la confianza de los isleños y sus perspectivas a futuro", completó el editorial
LA NOTA:
Comment
Argentina's claim on the Malvinas is still a good one
Regardless of the islanders' wishes, the issue of sovereignty will at some point have to get back on the agenda
Richard Gott
Monday April 2, 2007
The Guardian
Nearly 40 years ago, in November 1968, I travelled to the Malvinas with a group of diplomats in what was Britain's first and last attempt to get shot of the islands. Lord Chalfont, then a minister at the Foreign Office, was the leader of this expedition. He had the unenviable task of trying to persuade the 2,000 islanders that the British empire might not last for ever - and that they should start to entertain the notion they might be better off being friendly to their near-neighbour, Argentina, which had long claimed the islands. This was the moment when Britain was abandoning its "east of Suez" policy for financial reasons, and thinking of ways of winding up its residual empire. We had already forcibly deported the inhabitants of Diego Garcia in 1967 without much hostile publicity, and settled them in Mauritius and the Seychelles, handing over their islands to the Americans to build a gigantic air base. The Malvinas were next on the list. Maybe the islanders could be paid to set up sheep farms in New Zealand.
Over 10 days, we visited just about every farm and homestead in the two principal islands. We were greeted everywhere - and we could see the slogans and the union flag from the air before we landed - with the same messages: "Chalfont Go Home" and sometimes "We Want To Stay British". The islanders were adamant. They wanted nothing to do with Argentina, and Chalfont left them with a promise that nothing would happen without their agreement. Fourteen years later, in 1982, Britain and Argentina were at war over the islands, and nearly a thousand people lost their lives. Today we are invited to recall the 25th anniversary of that event, and the Argentinian government has reminded us of its claim, pulling out of the 1995 agreement about joint oil exploration that had been fondly embraced by the Foreign Office as an alternative to discussing anything as conflictive as sovereignty.
People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Malvinas belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away, and because much of Latin America is now falling into the hands of the nationalist left, the government in Buenos Aires will enjoy growing rhetorical support in the continent (and indeed elsewhere, from the current government in Iraq, for example), to the increasing discomfiture of Britain. All governments in Argentina, of whatever stripe, will continue to claim the Malvinas, just as governments in Belgrade will always lay claim to Kosovo.
The Malvinas were seized for Britain in January 1833 during an era of dramatic colonial expansion. Captain John Onslow of HMS Clio had instructions "to exercise the rights of sovereignty" over the islands, and he ordered the Argentinian commander to haul down his flag and withdraw his forces. Settlers from Argentina were replaced by those from Britain and elsewhere, notably Gibraltar. Britain and Argentina have disagreed ever since about the rights and wrongs of British occupation, and for much of the time the British authorities have been aware of the relative weakness of their case.
An item in the Public Record Office refers to a Foreign Office document of 1940 entitled "Offer made by His Majesty's government to reunify the Malvinas Islands with Argentina and to agree to a lease-back". Though its title survives, the document itself has been embargoed until 2015, although it may well exist in another archive. It was presumably an offer thrown out to the pro-German government of Argentina at the time, to keep them onside at a difficult moment in the war, though perhaps it was a draft or a jeu d'esprit dreamt up in the office.
The record suggests that successive UK governments have considered the British claim to the islands to be weak, and some have favoured negotiations. Recently released documents recall that James Callaghan, when foreign secretary in the 1970s, noted that "we must yield some ground and ... be prepared to discuss a lease-back arrangement". The secretary of the cabinet pointed out that "there are many ways in which Argentina could act against us, including invasion of the islands ... and we are not in a position to reinforce and defend the islands as a long-term commitment. The alternative of standing firm and taking the consequences is accordingly not practicable."
Of course, some people argue that Britain's physical possession of the islands, and its declared intention to hold them against all comers, makes its claim superior to Argentina's. Some believe that the Argentine invasion of the islands in 1982, and their subsequent forced retreat, in some way invalidates their original claim. Britain, above all, owes some debt to the heirs to the settlers who were originally sent there, a debt recognised in the Foreign Office mantra that, in all dealings with Argentina about the islands' future, the wishes of the islanders will be "paramount". Yet no such debt was recognised in the case of the inhabitants of Diego Garcia, perhaps because Britain inherited them from the French rather than planting the settlers themselves.
Ironically, the Malvinas islanders are the outcome of a 19th-century scheme of settlement not very different from the experience of Argentina in the same century, which brought in settlers from Italy, Germany, England and Wales, and planted them on land from which the native Indians had been cleared and exterminated. The record of the islanders looks rather cleaner by comparison. Yet the Argentinian claim is still a good one, and it will never go away. At some stage, sovereignty and lease-back will have to be on the agenda again, regardless of the wishes of the islanders. Ideally, the Malvinas should be included in a wider post-colonial cleanup of ancient territories. This would rid Britain of responsibility for Northern Ireland (almost gone), Gibraltar (under discussion), and for Diego Garcia (de facto given to the Americans), and anywhere else that anyone can still remember.
This post-colonial policy should have been adopted many years ago (and perhaps Harold Wilson's government was groping towards this end in the 1960s when Denis Healey abandoned British commitments east of Suez, and when Chalfont was sent to Puerto Argentino), and it should at least have been considered when we abandoned Hong Kong in the 1990s. Yet the strength of Blair's imperial revivalism, forever echoed in the popular press, suggests that this prospect is as far away as it was in 1982.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Malvinas/story/0,,2047980,00.html#article_continue
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