Malvinas War/ Guerra de Malvinas

Willypicapiedra

Miembro del Staff
Moderador
Hello Steve, with respect to the approach of PARA 3 to Longdon Mount, indeed was detected when the Cpl Milne end stepped on an antipersonnel mine and untied the fire of the machine guns of support of 12.7 mm of the infanteria de marina that supported to Regiment 7, besides mortar fire that covering the sector. Rasit was an antipersonnel radar , reason why (it speaks directly with his operator) was used to extinguish it and to ignite it in irregular form. According to it said to me, was by escases of fuel for the generator set. is understood or tenes some doubt?

Willy
 

jimmytx3

British War Veteran
still a puzzle,,Regimental Aid Post

hi Guillermo, Well after comparing the photo supplied by Patanglén, i must admit defeat,,:cheers2: after I cut the eye brows and mouth out of the supplied photo and put them over the original, they fit,
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i genuinely thought it was me, especially with the correspondence that I had received confirming it was me!!
But I would like to thank you all for assistance, it has been a pleasure,
it makes me wonder did Oscar Carrizos and me cross paths in the Aid Post, neither of us would have known.
"it is good to talk",
bye for now Jimmy
:cheers2:
Hi all, the photo comes to the surface again,,, more people have confirmed that it is me,,,
i have just been speaking to John Kennedy ex 3 para who features in the photo holding the saline drip, and he says it is me.. below is part of what he said,,
Hi Jimmy, Given your injuries and the cold you were lapsing in and out of consciousness. This is natural given your circumstances. Both Mike Von Bertele, Jock Wilson and myself kept checking on your condition.

Below is email off Dave Jock Wilson.
I am almost certain that it is you in the photograph. I remember you now and also remember Neil Parkin (23 PFA - who sadly died of cancer a few years ago) taking a jacket off one of the Argy casualties who were in the RAP and placing it on a 3 Para soldier who was drifting in and out of consciousness and shivering,

below is part of email off Kev Connery ex 3 para
i am 100% certain that is you with an Argentine jacket on,
take care and keep strong Jimmy
best wishes Kev

here is one off Steve McConnell ex 3 para
The black & white photograph, in which I named you as a wounded soldier, was taken shortly after reaching the lower rocks. I met up with John Kennedy, and one other, who informed us that we needed to move some casualties out of the line of fire. That was my first recollection of you. It was now daylight. I don't know who carried you but you were left propped against a small rock, behind Steve Hope. John moved over and started to apply a saline drip set to someone I didn't know.

Also i have spoken to Roger James who features in the other photo with jock Wilson, and he says he sat next to me for 15 minutes,,,
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i think it is me, the more i look, i can see me,,
Plus the position of the bandages bear no consistencies to Oscars wound.
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Yelmo58

Colaborador
Hi Jimmy!
Good to clarify that!
You´d be a good detective, not me.
:cheers2:
(wounds seem to latinize you...:smilielol5:)

Guillermo
 

jimmytx3

British War Veteran
Hi Jimmy!
Good to clarify that!
You´d be a good detective, not me.
:cheers2:
(wounds seem to latinize you...:smilielol5:)

Guillermo
Hi Guillermo, Thank you, where did you get that word "Latinize" i had to look it up in the Dictionary :confused: i am a simple soul, i really enjoy this forum, very informative.
bye for now jimmy :cheers2:
 

jimmytx3

British War Veteran
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Exactly! a new word...

... but your nose in that photo... wounds narrowed it, too...!:confused:
hi all, about the photo, i appreciate the input, but how do you explain the damaged cheekbone, the lack of shell dressing on his wound, shell dressings in the wrong place when they were applied in broad day light by trained medics, as for nose i think it is mine, the photo was been taken in not the best lighting conditions and blown up and has lost some definition.
and who has ever placed Oscar Carrizo in this photo, only to my knowledge Tom Smith who has misidentified him twice, please i would appreciate anything,
as i was unconscious and i am going on other people reports, but i truly can see my likeness, and for lips, both Oscar and i had fuller lips when we were younger.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2480/3956120717_ca39865a1a_o.jpg
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jimmytx3

British War Veteran
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hi All, i think we have been though this photo before, but i was looking at it again this morning, it is the photo of a man being helped by his friends, and it has been named as Oscar Carrizo, but when i look at the wound that Oscar received, there does not look much evidence of it in the photo, to me he looks more like Jorge Alberto Altieri
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hola a todos, creo que hemos sido aunque esta foto antes, pero yo estaba mirando de nuevo esta mañana, es la foto de un hombre siendo ayudado por sus amigos, y que ha sido nombrada como Oscar Carrizo, pero cuando miro a de la herida que recibió Oscar, no se ve mucha evidencia de que en la foto, a mí me parece más a Jorge Alberto Altieri

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2640/3954631055_88c3eaf9b2_o.jpg
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i would be interested in your thoughts on this matter,bye for now jimmy :cheers2:

also Oscar Carrizo says his jacket was taken from him before he was shot..
También Oscar Carrizo dice que su chaqueta se tomó antes de que él recibió un disparo ..
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...he-was-the-victim-of-a-war-crime-1500175.html
"I stood up with my gun. He made signs about my gun. I handed it over and they threw it down. Then they signalled about the ammunition belt, which I handed over, then my jacket - everything."

"Me levanté con mi pistola. Hizo señales de mi arma. Entregué y lo tiraron abajo. Luego señaló sobre el cinturón de municiones, que he entregado, mi chaqueta - todo".
 

jimmytx3

British War Veteran
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Hi all, another about the regimental aid post photo, when i was wounded i ended up in a shell hole with a friend from 3 para Stevie hope, we were both taken into the Regimental aid post, and the photo he is on the floor on the left as you look at the photo under the group of men,
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and as a coincidence, yesterday i went to see his name unveiled on the war memorial in his home town, a bit late,,,
it was very moving, especially meeting his family.
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Hola a todos, otro sobre la foto de la ayuda del regimiento de correos, que fue herido cuando terminé en un cráter con un amigo a partir de 3 esperanza para Stevie, que fueron llevados a la posta médica del regimiento, y la foto que está en el piso la izquierda según se mira la foto en el grupo de los hombres,

, y como una coincidencia, yo ayer fui a ver a su nombre, dio a conocer en el memorial de guerra en su ciudad natal, un poco tarde,


Fue muy emocionante, sobre todo conocer a su familia.
, y como una coincidencia, yo ayer fui a ver a su nombre, dio a conocer en el memorial de guerra en su ciudad natal, un poco tarde,,,
Fue muy emocionante, sobre todo conocer a su familia.
 

Yelmo58

Colaborador
Hi Jimmy!
You have enough lads giving direct evidence, don´t worry about my misgivings!

hi All, i think we have been though this photo before, but i was looking at it again this morning, it is the photo of a man being helped by his friends, and it has been named as Oscar Carrizo, but when i look at the wound that Oscar received, there does not look much evidence of it in the photo, to me he looks more like Jorge Alberto Altieri
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3958451506_d0d7d5ff9b_b.jpg
i would be interested in your thoughts on this matter,bye for now jimmy
Looks like Carrizo, in my opinion (a poor detective!). Pay attention to eyebrow, nose, lips ::)yonofui:), cheekbones and, a hole in the helmet?
And height. And subjectively: Altieri looks like a "green" boy, and Carrizo looks more "rough"...
 
Is there any chance someone on here could get in contact with Oscar Carrizo, to get his opinion on the photos?

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¿Hay alguna posibilidad de que alguien de aquí puede ponerse en contacto con Oscar Carrizo, para obtener su opinión sobre las fotos?
 

jimmytx3

British War Veteran
Hi is there someone on this site, who was on Longdon and actually knew him, and i would trust someone who knew the man,
i dont think there is a hole in the helmet he was shot by man standing in front of him, and cannot see any evidence of a hole,
if the man being walked is Oscar, does anyone have contact with the men walking with him, are they on this site, they are the men who could nail this,
or Sergio Delgado
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...he-was-the-victim-of-a-war-crime-1500175.html
Shortly after 9am on the morning of 12 June, Delgado was rescued by a medical team and taken to a British first-aid post for evacuation to the hospital ship Uganda. As he lay on his stretcher, his legs shattered, he saw what he thought was the body of Corporal Carrizo. 'He had been put with a lot of dead Argentine soldiers who were going to be buried in a shell crater. Then one of the British noticed he was alive and they took him away. I was sure he must have died.'
there must be people who know these men to get a first hand account,
well heres hoping,,:cheers2:
thank you all..muchas gracias.

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Hola ¿hay alguien en este sitio, que estaba en Longdon y en realidad lo conocía, y me gustaría confiar en alguien que sabía que el hombre,
No creo que hay un agujero en el casco fue baleado por hombre de pie delante de él, y no puede ver ninguna evidencia de un agujero,
si el hombre se acercó es Oscar, ¿alguien tiene contacto con los hombres que andaban con él, están en este sitio, son los hombres que podrían clavo esto,
o Sergio Delgado

Poco después de 9 am en la mañana del 12 de junio, Delgado fue rescatado por un equipo médico y trasladado a un británico puesto de primeros auxilios para la evacuación de al buque hospital Uganda. Mientras yacía en su camilla, con las piernas destrozadas, vio lo que él pensó era el cuerpo del cabo Carrizo. «Había sido puesto con un montón de muertos soldados argentinos que iban a ser enterrados en un cráter. Entonces, uno de los británicos se percató de que estaba vivo y se lo llevaron. Estaba segura de que debe haber muerto.
que debe haber gente que conoce a estos hombres para obtener una cuenta de primera mano,
Heres y la esperanza de

muchas gracias.Poco después de 9 am en la mañana del 12 de junio, Delgado fue rescatado por un equipo médico y trasladado a un británico puesto de primeros auxilios para la evacuación de al buque hospital Uganda. Mientras yacía en su camilla, con las piernas destrozadas, vio lo que él pensó era el cuerpo del cabo Carrizo. «Había sido puesto con un montón de muertos soldados argentinos que iban a ser enterrados en un cráter. Entonces, uno de los británicos se percató de que estaba vivo y se lo llevaron. Estaba segura de que debe haber muerto.
que debe haber gente que conoce a estos hombres para obtener una cuenta de primera mano,
Heres y la esperanza
 
One thing worth checking if he can be contacted and remembers is the simple fact of whether he still had his helmet on at the time of the second shooting. Following the first shooting, in his words: "'I took off my helmet and I saw the exit hole, like a little flower." The question is whether he put it back on - the man walking has it on by the chin strap, where as Jimmy (if that was you) does not, and clearly has head dressings on.

My guess is that if he had received two head injuries, by this point, if the walking man was Oscar Carrizo and he was being helped away, his helmet would have been off and something would have been applied to stop the bleeding. Just a guess- thoughts anyone?
 

jimmytx3

British War Veteran
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Steve, i think he was shot only once with a short burst from a GPMG, General Purpose Machine Gun, it seems to have caught him a glancing blow, i remember talking when i was back it the UK to the man who did this, it is not the man who commonly named in books, and he was a GPMG gunner, i have been trying to contact him, but cannot,
the helmet he is seen wearing in the photo may have been picked up and put on by a friend, as there was kit lying all over the mountain, and shells were still falling,

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Steve, creo que le dispararon una sola vez con una corta ráfaga de un GPMG, General Purpose Machine Gun, parece que le han cogido un golpe oblicuo, recuerdo cuando yo estaba hablando de nuevo que el Reino Unido para el hombre que hizo esto, no es el hombre que se denomina comúnmente en los libros, y era un artillero GPMG, he estado tratando de ponerse en contacto con él, pero no puede,
el casco se le ve usando en la foto podría haber sido recogido y organizado por un amigo, ya que no había mentido todo el kit de la montaña, y las conchas se sigue cayendo,
 

Griffiths911

British War Veteran
I was just talking to Cosmicomet on the Phone , he was asking me about the C 130 when they tried to shoot them down when arriving on the Islands - Could you please tell us again those encounters and how did the mouse trap work -

Thank you , Regards Enrique

Hablando por telefono con Cosmicomet me preguntaba acerca de las emboscadas a los C 130 entonces le pedi a Ken que nos vuelva a relatar como montaban las emboscadas - ( Spanish )

Enrique,

I'm sure I've covered some detail of C130 ambush attempts by HMS Cardiff in previous posts. I posted the official signal sent to the admiralty by Cardiff called 'Report of Proceedings' at the end of the war which details all weapon expenditure by Cardiff. Interestingly, there is one night where we we tried to engage what we thought was a C130 landing and later that night taking off at Puerto Argentino/Puerto Argentina. it turned out to be a jet aircraft which name eludes me. I will try to find and post that document again.

To put things simply, our radar on the batch 1 Type 42 was absolutely unsuitable for detecting aircraft flying over or near land. The data update rate on the 965 was terrible...11 rotations per minute (I think) and the 992 target indication radar, whilst having an excellent data update rate had a very poor anti clutter and moving target indicator facility at that time. We had only fleeting radar sightings of these aircraft and on occasions did lock them up with our 909 fire control radar and fired Seadarts. These aircraft were using the land to hide and invariably distracted our 909 radars when the missile was in flight.

The pilots were at times very lucky but their piloting skills saved them more than luck and our radars were not effective enough to successfully ambush these aircraft.

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Enrique,

Estoy seguro de que he tratado con cierto detalle de los intentos de emboscada C130 por el HMS Cardiff en entradas anteriores. Me envió la señal oficial enviada al almirantazgo por Cardiff llamado "Informe de Desarrollo" al final de la guerra que se detallan todos los gastos de armas de Cardiff. Curiosamente, hay una noche en la que hemos tratado de realizar lo que pensamos que fue un aterrizaje C130 y más tarde esa noche de despegar en Puerto Argentino / Puerto Argentina. que resultó ser un avión de reacción que el nombre se me escapa. Voy a tratar de encontrar y publicar el documento de nuevo.

Para poner las cosas simplemente, nuestro radar en el lote 1 tipo 42 era absolutamente inadecuada para la detección de las aeronaves que vuelen sobre o cerca de la tierra. La tasa de actualización de datos sobre los 965 fue terrible ... 11 rotaciones por minuto (creo) y los 992 radares indicación de destino, mientras que con una excelente tasa de actualización de datos había un desorden muy pobres y contra la instalación de indicador de blancos en movimiento en ese momento. Hemos tenido sólo observaciones por radar fugaz de estos aviones y en ocasiones no encerrarlos con los 909 radares de control de incendios y Seadarts despedido. Estos aviones estaban utilizando la tierra para ocultar y siempre distraído nuestros 909 radares cuando el misil estaba en vuelo.

Los pilotos eran a veces muy afortunado, pero sus habilidades de pilotaje salvó a más de suerte y de nuestros radares no fueron lo suficientemente eficaces para éxito emboscada de estos aviones.
 

reydelcastillo

Veterano Guerra de Malvinas
Colaborador
Thank You Ken - We are going to translate right now so all can read it -

Received your PM - Thank You

Willy / Yelmo / Pantanglen / Tornado si tienen una calculadora a mano podran traduciorlo al Castellano - Gracias Enrique

Hi Jimmy I just saw you on line , we have not forgot about who you are looking for , we are still tracking him , Several of us including WillyPicapiedra are after Him .- Regards Enrique
 

Griffiths911

British War Veteran
Report of Proceedings HMS Cardiff

If there is any translation regarding Royal Navy operational terminology please ask.



 
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