nico22
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Ojala Tordo !!
No, Panzer debe hacer snorkel periódicamente acorde el consumo de baterías.
Y fue emocionante también... Lo vi desde aqui de Brasil via youtube...
Lo mas importante fue su llamado, y esto sirve para todos nosotros acá, a la seriedad de no dar credibilidad a lo que no sea fuente oficial, menos aun lo reproduzir. Lo que tenga la minima de probabilidad de ser 'humo', no se publica!!!
Saludos.
fepago
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capsulas no, trajes de escape. con el mar en las condiciones en las que esta les conviene permanecer el mayor tiempo posible.
los ingleses perdieron gente en la posguerra por escapar del submarino y morir en superficie por exposición al clima.
si el interior es habitable y no hay ingreso de agua, permanecer a bordo es la mejor opción hasta el rescate.
hay varios films de entrenamiento de la us navy en youtube.
Derruido
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Primero............ menos mal que ésto no pasó en aguas de Malvinas........
Segundo, cuando ésto termine, va haber un Tole Tole, dentro de la Armada y fuera de la Armada.
Tercero, pero primero es lo primero, que se rescate sana y salva a la tripulación.
Besos
El-comechingón
Fanático del Asado
Avisa que dicen, no tengo tv.
Por eso puse "OJALA". Necesitamos tener alguna info fresca. No hay un p...o reportero argentino transmitiendo de ningun buque o avion en busqueda.
Argentinian navy detects noises that could be signal from missing sub
By John Kirby, Ana Melgar and Joe Sterling, CNN
Updated 1806 GMT (0206 HKT) November 20, 2017
(CNN) Argentina's navy on Monday picked up noises that could be a distress signal from the crew of a missing submarine and said the sub's captain reported a "failure" in the vessel's battery system before it disappeared.
The sonar systems of two ships detected noises sounding like tools being banged against the hull of a submarine, according to a senior US Navy official familiar with the Navy's assistance in the search for the Argentinian vessel.
The official said that crews of submarines in distress bang on the vessel's hull to alert passing ships to their location. The missing submarine -- ARA San Juan -- has a crew of 44.
The Argentinian navy was able to fix the rough location of the sounds the two ships picked up and is now concentrating its search in an area of 35 square nautical miles approximately 330 miles off the coast of Argentina, the official said.
The submarine was heading from a base in southern Argentina's Tierra del Fuego archipelago to its home port in Mar del Plata. It was scheduled to arrive there Sunday.
'Failure' reported in the vessel's battery system
The vessel's captain reported a "failure" in the vessel's battery system shortly before it disappeared last week, the country's Navy spokesman Gabriel Galeazzi said Monday.
After he reported the sub had experienced a "short circuit," he was told to "change course and return to Mar del Plata," said Galeazzi.
Argentina's missing submarine: What we know
This type of problem is considered routine and the vessel's crew was reported safe, he added.
The Argentinian navy had one more communication with the captain before the sub went missing, said Galeazzi. The navy did not give details of the content of that final communication.
On Saturday, seven reported communication attempts were initially believed to originate from the San Juan -- but on Monday officials said the radio calls had not come from the missing sub.
The last confirmed contact with the submarine was Wednesday, the Argentinian navy said.
A US Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft, also known as a submarine hunter, is now assisting in the search area.
Mixed signals as rescuers hunt missing Argentine submarine
The US official said that the waters of the Atlantic Ocean where the sounds originated are extremely deep. The official stressed that search efforts thus far have yet to locate the submarine.
The Argentinian military has also been working with a US company that specializes in satellite communication to determine the location of the submarine.
The search area, off the Patagonia coast, is notorious for strong storms.
Clock is ticking
While submarines of this size and class can stay at sea for around a month, that doesn't mean they can spend 30 days underwater.
"It's dependent upon the last time they actually recharged their batteries, how long ago they refreshed the air, what's inside the submarine. We just don't know," said William Craig Reed, a former US Navy diver and submariner.
If it has sunk but is still intact, the crew will have about a week to 10 days of oxygen, Peter Layton, a visiting fellow at the Griffith Asia Institute, Griffith University said.
When in operation the sub could travel submerged around 50 meters (165 feet) below the surface, Layton said.
It would come near the surface to "snort" -- replenish its oxygen, recharge the batteries by using the diesel engines and send radio signals -- around once every 24 hours.
Por dios que sea cierta esa info...La fuente es confiable?
Un Oficial retirado de ARA. Pero....esperemos y oremos con mas fuerza.
Estimado la ARA nunca tuvo ni siquiera posibilidad de ver televisión en medio del mar asi que transmitir menos....
Estimado, la CNN transmitia en directo los bombazos desde Bagdad en los NOVENTA...cuando hay interes, los modos y medios se consiguen.
Eso Dice CNN, esto se ve en Marinetraffic.com
Aquí en Brasil, hay varios sitios web que monitorean la situación con mucha atención. Esperamos que el rescate ocurra lo antes posible, con el salvamiento de todas las vidas humanas involucradas.
ANEXO a lo subido antes:
However, that could depend on whether it was a straightforward transit or if the sub was engaging in other operations en route, Euan Graham, director, international security, of the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney told CNN.
"Obviously the Malvinas Islands are an intelligence target for Argentina," he said. "There is no reason to suggest that it was engaged in this but still a possibility. If so it would need to stay out of detection envelope."
However, that could depend on whether it was a straightforward transit or if the sub was engaging in other operations en route, Euan Graham, director, international security, of the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney told CNN.
"Obviously the Malvinas Islands are an intelligence target for Argentina," he said. "There is no reason to suggest that it was engaged in this but still a possibility. If so it would need to stay out of detection envelope."
nico22
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