handschar dijo:
http://www.rafael.co.il/marketing/SIP_STORAGE/FILES/0/760.pdf
por lo menos el fabricante lo dice en su brochure oficial.
saludos.
El "nuevo" Mirage MF-1 de Marruecos
- Tema iniciado spirit666
- Fecha de inicio
http://www.rafael.co.il/marketing/SIP_STORAGE/FILES/0/760.pdf
por lo menos el fabricante lo dice en su brochure oficial.
saludos.
Wolf
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Mcu
Un detalle estimado, MCU = Middle course update.
Aca un video bien interesante :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq0-Rg2ApDo
Saludos
handschar dijo:
Un detalle estimado, MCU = Middle course update.
Aca un video bien interesante :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq0-Rg2ApDo
Saludos
pues parece ser que "ningun" phoenix derribo ningun avion en iran/irak, porque los f14 no estaban capacitados para los mismos.
en acig, toma las fuentes de los interesados... hasta existe un derribo de un b52 por parte iraki (claro, te ponen la salvedad que en verdad se cayo, y no fue derribado).
un abrazo
pd: hoot, tengo entendido que el derby, solo se adquirio unos 50 misiles por parte del iaf para evaluacion, pero no fue aceptado por parte de la fuerza.
un abrazo
en acig, toma las fuentes de los interesados... hasta existe un derribo de un b52 por parte iraki (claro, te ponen la salvedad que en verdad se cayo, y no fue derribado).
un abrazo
pd: hoot, tengo entendido que el derby, solo se adquirio unos 50 misiles por parte del iaf para evaluacion, pero no fue aceptado por parte de la fuerza.
un abrazo
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f14_6.html
Wiki dice lo siguiente
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix
* During the entry of the F-14 and AIM-54 into Iranian service, the Shah (king) ordered live-firing exercises with AIM-54s. The exercise was targeted against the Soviet Union, who was flying MiG-25 reconnaissance sorties over Iran. Five AIM-54s were shot at AQL-34 target drones, two flying Mach 2 at 60,000 feet. Four missiles hit the targets.
* On 1980-09-16, Iranian F-14s were vectored against a fast-moving contact, approaching Khark oil terminals at Mach 3. The MiG-25 was shot down by an AIM-54. This was the first confirmed kill by an F-14 against a MiG-25.
On the same day, another MiG-25RB was shot down in extremely hard conditions. The MiG-25 was approaching fast and was already within 113 km, yet the F-14 RIO was unable to acquire the target. A positive lock-on was made at a distance of only 70 km, almost inside the minimum range for this type of look-up shot against a high-speed target. A single AIM-54 was launched in snap-up engagement mode at 64 km. The missile worked perfectly and the MiG was downed.
* On 1980-12-02, one of the closest-range shoot-downs by an AIM-54 occurred. Captain F. Dehghan of the 8th TFS was flying on patrol covering Khark Island oil terminals, when a number of approaching bogies were detected. Lock-on was attained only from a distance of 10 miles, too close to the minimum range of the missile. The F-14 had to use the Phoenix, though, as otherwise the plane would have been too heavy for dogfighting. The Phoenix was launched in short-range active mode and it managed to hit a MiG-21.
* On 1982-11-20, two Iraqi generals boarded an Mi-8 helicopter to visit the front lines. The Mi-8 was escorted by two other Mi-8s, an Mi-25, four MiG-21s and four MiG-23s, that were replaced by additional fighters when they ran low on fuel. The formation was spotted by two Iranian Tomcats escorting an IRIAF KC-707 tanker, which was
for an Iranian F-4 strike group to refuel. The F-14s were flying a race-track pattern, scanning over the front line with their AWG-9 radars. Captain Khosrodad spotted a large number of targets approaching slowly from the west, already within AIM-54 range. Khosrodad ordered his wingman to keep with the tanker and attacked, first firing two AIM-54s, then two AIM-7E-4s some 10 seconds later. According to Iraqi reports, one MiG-21 and two MiG-23s were shot down within a minute, forcing the Iraqi generals to abandon their mission.
* On 1987-02-20, an IRIAF F-4 lured an Iraqi strike force into a trap, which was ambushed by two F-14s of the 81st TFS. An AIM-54 was launched at very long range, hitting the lead Mirage flown by IrAF Brig. General Hekmat Abdul-Qadr. The Iranian listening posts recorded the leader of the accompanying Su-22 flight scream "F-Arba-Ashara! Yalla! Yalla!" with the seven remaining fighters turning and fleeing. In English, the leader had called: "F-14! Run! Run!"
* During late 1987, the Soviet Union supplied Iraq with the MiG-25BM "Wild Weasel" aircraft. The planes tested the ECM systems against Iranian Tomcats and attacked Iranian targets with new anti-radar weapons. The MiG-25BMs proved they could operate with impunity at up to 69,000 ft, until on the night of November 11 a MiG-25BM was intercepted by an F-14. The Tomcat fired a single AIM-54 in Home-On-Jam mode. The missile guided flawlessly but failed to detonate. Yet, the missile clipped the MiG-25's fin and forced the pilot to bail out.
* During March 1988, Iraq launched a major attack against Iranian oil exports. On March 19, at 0100h, the first wave of Iraqi Tu-22B heavy bombers and Mirage fighters, attacked Khark Island and the tankers. Half an hour later, a second wave arrived without losses. The Iranian F-14s had arrived on scene for the third wave, though. The U.S. Navy warships patrolling on the area recorded several AIM-54 launches, with at least one Tu-22B bomber and a MiG-25RB being destroyed. According to the U.S. Navy, it is probable that other Iraqi bombers were shot down as well.
* During the ending phase of the Iran-Iraq war, a mini war developed between the Iraqi Mirage F1 EQ-5/6 units and the Iranian F-14s between February and July 1988. The F1 pilots hunted the Tomcats aggressively and attacked the Iranians at any occasion. The F1EQ-6s were equipped with good ECM systems, and the Iraqi pilots could deny the F-14s from using their AIM-54 missiles. For example, on 1988-07-19, 4 Mirages attacked two F-14s and downed both, suffering no losses.
Figuran en varios lugares la compra de repuestos para los AIM54 desp de la guerra iran irak, porq lo se asume q siguieron siendo operativos a pesar de los sabotajes (que seguramente existieron)
Por lo que creo q los derribos Iranies existieron
Al menos, asi lo veo yo
Wiki dice lo siguiente
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix
* During the entry of the F-14 and AIM-54 into Iranian service, the Shah (king) ordered live-firing exercises with AIM-54s. The exercise was targeted against the Soviet Union, who was flying MiG-25 reconnaissance sorties over Iran. Five AIM-54s were shot at AQL-34 target drones, two flying Mach 2 at 60,000 feet. Four missiles hit the targets.
* On 1980-09-16, Iranian F-14s were vectored against a fast-moving contact, approaching Khark oil terminals at Mach 3. The MiG-25 was shot down by an AIM-54. This was the first confirmed kill by an F-14 against a MiG-25.
On the same day, another MiG-25RB was shot down in extremely hard conditions. The MiG-25 was approaching fast and was already within 113 km, yet the F-14 RIO was unable to acquire the target. A positive lock-on was made at a distance of only 70 km, almost inside the minimum range for this type of look-up shot against a high-speed target. A single AIM-54 was launched in snap-up engagement mode at 64 km. The missile worked perfectly and the MiG was downed.
* On 1980-12-02, one of the closest-range shoot-downs by an AIM-54 occurred. Captain F. Dehghan of the 8th TFS was flying on patrol covering Khark Island oil terminals, when a number of approaching bogies were detected. Lock-on was attained only from a distance of 10 miles, too close to the minimum range of the missile. The F-14 had to use the Phoenix, though, as otherwise the plane would have been too heavy for dogfighting. The Phoenix was launched in short-range active mode and it managed to hit a MiG-21.
* On 1982-11-20, two Iraqi generals boarded an Mi-8 helicopter to visit the front lines. The Mi-8 was escorted by two other Mi-8s, an Mi-25, four MiG-21s and four MiG-23s, that were replaced by additional fighters when they ran low on fuel. The formation was spotted by two Iranian Tomcats escorting an IRIAF KC-707 tanker, which was
for an Iranian F-4 strike group to refuel. The F-14s were flying a race-track pattern, scanning over the front line with their AWG-9 radars. Captain Khosrodad spotted a large number of targets approaching slowly from the west, already within AIM-54 range. Khosrodad ordered his wingman to keep with the tanker and attacked, first firing two AIM-54s, then two AIM-7E-4s some 10 seconds later. According to Iraqi reports, one MiG-21 and two MiG-23s were shot down within a minute, forcing the Iraqi generals to abandon their mission.* On 1987-02-20, an IRIAF F-4 lured an Iraqi strike force into a trap, which was ambushed by two F-14s of the 81st TFS. An AIM-54 was launched at very long range, hitting the lead Mirage flown by IrAF Brig. General Hekmat Abdul-Qadr. The Iranian listening posts recorded the leader of the accompanying Su-22 flight scream "F-Arba-Ashara! Yalla! Yalla!" with the seven remaining fighters turning and fleeing. In English, the leader had called: "F-14! Run! Run!"
* During late 1987, the Soviet Union supplied Iraq with the MiG-25BM "Wild Weasel" aircraft. The planes tested the ECM systems against Iranian Tomcats and attacked Iranian targets with new anti-radar weapons. The MiG-25BMs proved they could operate with impunity at up to 69,000 ft, until on the night of November 11 a MiG-25BM was intercepted by an F-14. The Tomcat fired a single AIM-54 in Home-On-Jam mode. The missile guided flawlessly but failed to detonate. Yet, the missile clipped the MiG-25's fin and forced the pilot to bail out.
* During March 1988, Iraq launched a major attack against Iranian oil exports. On March 19, at 0100h, the first wave of Iraqi Tu-22B heavy bombers and Mirage fighters, attacked Khark Island and the tankers. Half an hour later, a second wave arrived without losses. The Iranian F-14s had arrived on scene for the third wave, though. The U.S. Navy warships patrolling on the area recorded several AIM-54 launches, with at least one Tu-22B bomber and a MiG-25RB being destroyed. According to the U.S. Navy, it is probable that other Iraqi bombers were shot down as well.
* During the ending phase of the Iran-Iraq war, a mini war developed between the Iraqi Mirage F1 EQ-5/6 units and the Iranian F-14s between February and July 1988. The F1 pilots hunted the Tomcats aggressively and attacked the Iranians at any occasion. The F1EQ-6s were equipped with good ECM systems, and the Iraqi pilots could deny the F-14s from using their AIM-54 missiles. For example, on 1988-07-19, 4 Mirages attacked two F-14s and downed both, suffering no losses.
Figuran en varios lugares la compra de repuestos para los AIM54 desp de la guerra iran irak, porq lo se asume q siguieron siendo operativos a pesar de los sabotajes (que seguramente existieron)
Por lo que creo q los derribos Iranies existieron
Al menos, asi lo veo yo
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SnAkE_OnE
hubo una empresa que se llamaba "Rio de la Plata" que les llevo tecnicos y repuestos de los Phoenix...puntualmente habia problemas con repuestos y las baterias, que despues se empezaron a fabricar localmente, todo salido desde USA con Israel como intermediario..parte de los arreglos por la liberacion de los rehenes despues de la falla de Eagle Claw
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SnAkE_OnE
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