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2 Phantoms, había mal clima
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/82626
Date:17-OCT-1983
McDonnell Douglas F-4 FGR.2 Phantom IIOwner/operator:23 Squadron Royal Air Force (23 Sqn RAF)Registration:XV484C/n / msn:3373/0099Fatalities:Fatalities: 2 / Occupants: 2Other fatalities:0Aircraft damage:Written off (damaged beyond repair)Location:Mount Usbourne, 9 miles NNE of Pradera del Ganso (Goose Green), East Malvinas - Malvinas Islands Phase:Manoeuvring (airshow, firefighting, ag.ops.)Nature:MilitaryDeparture airport:RAF Stanley, Malvinas Islands (PSY/FSAL)Destination airport: Narrative:Crashed into the cloud covered Mount Usbourne 500 feet from the summit, nine miles NNE of Pradera del Ganso (Goose Green), East Malvinas, while acting as a target for two other Phantoms. The crew made no attempt to eject and were both killed
XV484 was involved in an air interception exercise, acting as the "mouse" for 2 other Phantoms acting as "cats". This aircraft had recently come off a tanker, & was fully fuelled for a CAP. Flt Lts Gostick (Pilot) & Bell (Nav) are thought to have seen the "cats" whilst flying above a layer of Stratus cloud at a height of approx 3-4000 ft. The Inquiry assumed that they inverted in order to enter the cloud so as not to be seen by their pursuers, intending to roll out & escape detection. It is further thought that the crew reckoned they were over the Lafonia Plain, & had sufficient height to manouevre, but found on exiting cloud that they were, in fact, over Mt Usborne with only about 400 ft altitude, & a second or two to react. The pilot attempted to pull the aircraft up, but was defeated by the rate of descent. The aircraft struck the ground tail-first, as was evident from a long gouge leading to the crater left by the crash. The aircraft broke up comprehensively, & the arrester-hook was the largest complete single item found by investigators. My brother, an Engineer Officer, was one of the investigating team who attended the crash site immediately following the accident, with specific responsibility to locate the ejection seats, but he, & others had to take cover as the aircraft's fuel & 20mm ammunition burned. The aircraft was also carrying 4 x Sidewinder & 4 x Sparrow missiles. As has been stated above, the crew had no time to eject, & the seats showed no sign of ejection sequence initiation. It is not known why the crew seemed to take no account of height indications from their Radio Altimeter.
Date:17-OCT-1983
McDonnell Douglas F-4 FGR.2 Phantom IIOwner/operator:23 Squadron Royal Air Force (23 Sqn RAF)Registration:XV484C/n / msn:3373/0099Fatalities:Fatalities: 2 / Occupants: 2Other fatalities:0Aircraft damage:Written off (damaged beyond repair)Location:Mount Usbourne, 9 miles NNE of Pradera del Ganso (Goose Green), East Malvinas - Malvinas Islands Phase:Manoeuvring (airshow, firefighting, ag.ops.)Nature:MilitaryDeparture airport:RAF Stanley, Malvinas Islands (PSY/FSAL)Destination airport: Narrative:Crashed into the cloud covered Mount Usbourne 500 feet from the summit, nine miles NNE of Pradera del Ganso (Goose Green), East Malvinas, while acting as a target for two other Phantoms. The crew made no attempt to eject and were both killed
XV484 was involved in an air interception exercise, acting as the "mouse" for 2 other Phantoms acting as "cats". This aircraft had recently come off a tanker, & was fully fuelled for a CAP. Flt Lts Gostick (Pilot) & Bell (Nav) are thought to have seen the "cats" whilst flying above a layer of Stratus cloud at a height of approx 3-4000 ft. The Inquiry assumed that they inverted in order to enter the cloud so as not to be seen by their pursuers, intending to roll out & escape detection. It is further thought that the crew reckoned they were over the Lafonia Plain, & had sufficient height to manouevre, but found on exiting cloud that they were, in fact, over Mt Usborne with only about 400 ft altitude, & a second or two to react. The pilot attempted to pull the aircraft up, but was defeated by the rate of descent. The aircraft struck the ground tail-first, as was evident from a long gouge leading to the crater left by the crash. The aircraft broke up comprehensively, & the arrester-hook was the largest complete single item found by investigators. My brother, an Engineer Officer, was one of the investigating team who attended the crash site immediately following the accident, with specific responsibility to locate the ejection seats, but he, & others had to take cover as the aircraft's fuel & 20mm ammunition burned. The aircraft was also carrying 4 x Sidewinder & 4 x Sparrow missiles. As has been stated above, the crew had no time to eject, & the seats showed no sign of ejection sequence initiation. It is not known why the crew seemed to take no account of height indications from their Radio Altimeter.
Ese no es el de la calle de rodaje que dice Glocky
EA41
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Segun cuentan las malas lenguas en radio pasillo, cuando se preveía muy mala MET en cierta base insular, los L188 salían de BAAZ a pinchar el área de exclusión, no sea cosa que por culpa del mal clima algún avión sufra un accidente en despegue o aterrizaje. Pero debe de ser mas un comentario de radio pasillo
Saludos
Saludos
EA41
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Si, esos fueron los destinados a reemplazar a los DC4 en la 1° Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Sostén Logístico Móvil. Ante la cancelación de los P3 australianos, no quedo mas remedio que adquirir algunos mas para transformarlos en exploradores.
En esa época en BAAZ solo estaba el Batallón de la IMARA y PROPOGEN.
Saludos
g lock
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Una hermosa y sana costumbre que nunca debimos abandonar...
Para prevenir accidentes, claro... Todo sea por la seguridad!!
Se puede hacer todavía, con P-3, de alguna forma
EA41
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Como alguna vez me contaron que se escucho en alguna frecuencia de radio "just and old electra". Pero el viejito tenia algunas sorpresitas guardadas
g lock
Colaborador
Se traia varias cosillas bajo el poncho el "viejo electra"...
EA41 necesito accesar al archivo interno sobre los datos recabados durante esos y otros vuelos, me tramitás? gracias.
EA41
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Ya mande el memo con la solicitud a J3, me dicen que te lo mandan por correo. Revisa el buzon de tu casa en los proximos dias.
Se agradece!!!!
espero acá sentado
Saludos
espero acá sentado
Saludos
Ahhhhhh.... (hasta en la revista ALAS lo llamaban "Electrón"...)Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
Lo que leen mis ojos!!
Antes de que venga @EA41 y los ponga en caja,les explico.
Nunca existió el famoso "electrón".
Eso fue un invento de un notero que escribía para revistas Españolas.
Los que existieron fueron;
-Electra Explorador, reemplazado mas tarde por los P-3B
-Electra WAVE, aparato de inteligencia electrónica, dado de baja, y sin reemplazo.
Y creo que el que escribió la nota de esa revista, es el mismo periodista que mandaba las notas para revistas españolas.
Ojo, no es crìtica lo mio. Yo también leía esas revistas, y también me guiaba mucho por lo que en ellas aparecía.
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