Por supuesto que no aceptamos las negociaciones con los turcos! Que se han creído!
Reemplazo Fragatas Type-L & T-22 ACh
- Tema iniciado HernanSCL
- Fecha de inicio
Me voy del foro
No dude ( traducción: No amigo)
¿En reemplazo de qué? Las dos clases de MEKO que tienen están modernizadas, y cuando las Yavuz las den de baja se reemplazan por las Estambul...
El problema es que anunciaron la baja de una que es la Montrose.
La Monmouth está muerta desde 2019 en muelle.
Si quieres partir la logística, inicias con un par.
A Chile le conviene una porque ya tiene 3... Pero a la industria de defensa de UK le conviene ofrecer todo con tal de enganchar un contrato por nuevas unidades... T-31e.
Turquía tiene que reaccionar a la compra griega de las FTI... Está servido en bandeja.
No me extrañaría que se vaya el último par de T-23, incluyendo reparación de la muerta si es que con eso abrochan un contrato de fragatas nuevas para su industria.
A Chile ya lo tienen como cliente, si no se logra la Montrose para reemplazar a la Williams, ya se iniciaron los contactos con Países Bajos por la opción de disponer de la Type-M Van Amstel (2024), de tener listo su reemplazo.
La Williams está en buenas condiciones... Y se puede esperar un tiempo.
Pero por logística, opciones lógicas para puente es una T-23 o una Type-M.
La Armada de Chile enfrenta con fuerza el futuro
La Armada de Chile afrontar importantes requerimientos en sus unidades auxiliares, ha de reemplazar 2 submarinos y las unidades de la Escuadra
La ex HMS Monmouth en 23/04/2023
Sin radar ni artillería principal
Lo que va a costar revivir ese cascarón vacio.La ex HMS Monmouth en 23/04/2023
Que desperdicio! Con menos de 30 añitos! Acá le sacabamos unos 10 más por lo bajo.La ex HMS Monmouth en 23/04/2023
Si le sacan la electrónica principal no hay problema, las chilenas montaron otra (CMS-330 + TRS-4D). En EW lo mismo con las Thorn-EMI-UAT vs suite chileno-israelí, Data Link SISDEF SP-100, varias cosas diferentes que se fueron incorporando en ASMAR.
Lo importante para la ACh es precisamente el resto del cascarón.... que el casco y la planta motriz no estén en mal estado en orden a tener una buena base para modernizar.
Tengo entendido que a la Montrose se le hizo MLU a la planta.
La Monmouth de la foto hace rato que esta muerta, desde 2019 que está en muelle.
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Cost of Royal Navy frigate HMS Iron Duke refit revealed
In a programme of two century landmarks, HMS Iron Duke’s LIFEX cost over £100m and required 100 labour hours for every hour of service life remaining.
By Richard Thomas
The five-year-long refit of the UK Royal Navy’s Type 23 frigate HMS Iron Duke, which saw upgrades to warfare, communication, navigation, and other systems, cost over £100m for a vessel officially due to leave service in 2025.
In a written parliamentary response, published on 22 June, James Cartlidge, Minister for Defence Procurement, stated that the total anticipated project costs for HMS Iron Duke were “approximately £103m”, a figure which could see “slight adjustment” to “reflect ongoing negotiations” with the contractor Babcock.
The refit, which took place from 2018-2023, required 1.7m hours of labour in what was purportedly the largest overhaul of a Duke-class frigate to date. Broken down, the 1.7m hours of labour towards the refit works out to 340,000 hours annually.
Scheduled to be the fourth of the Type 23 frigates to be decommissioned, HMS Iron Duke has around 17,000 hours of service life remaining. This equates to approximately 100 hours of refit labour spent for every hour left as a commissioned vessel in the Royal Navy.
A Royal Navy spokesperson told Naval Technology that the fleet “continues to meet all operational requirements” at it transitions from the Type 23 frigates to the new Type 26 and Type 31 vessels.
“This modernisation involves sensible planning, such as the recent completion of HMS Iron Duke’s Life Extension (LIFEX) programme, to balance availability and deliver value for money,” the spokesperson said.
The departure of HMS Iron Duke in 2025 is to be preceded by HMS Lancaster in 2024 and will be the last of the general-purpose variants to be decommissioned.
In 2022 HMS Somerset completed a near-four-year service life-extension (LIFEX) programme, which required more than one million hours of refit work. The vessel was followed into the Frigate Support Centre ahead of completing LIFEX by HMS Iron Duke, with HMS Argyll and HMS Westminster due later that same year.
Although HMS Argyll had a planned out-of-service date (OSD) of 2023, the LIFEX is expected to see the vessel remain in service, potentially up to the 2027-2028 timeframe in order to maintain the already dwindling surface combatant numbers of the Royal Navy. HMS Westminster, the oldest of the anti-submarine warfare variants (fitted with Sonar Type 2087), is due to leave service in 2028.
However, the material state of some of the older Type 23 frigates is such that is it unknown whether all will be able to see out their scheduled service life. The upcoming reissue of the Defence Command Paper, expected to be published before UK Parliamentary recess, could offer some indication of the fate of the remaining Type 23 frigates.
The Royal Navy’s Type 23 frigates are due to be replaced by the five-strong Type 31 general purpose frigate, which recently was revealed to potentially have to undergo design changes even with the first two vessels already under construction, and eight new Type 26 frigates.
In financial comparison, the Type 31 frigates were budgeted to each cost approximately £250m, plus government-furnished equipment. However, manufacturer Babcock is in dispute with the UK Ministry of Defence over the profitability of the programme.
The larger Type 26 frigates, currently being manufactured by BAE Systems, are likely to cost around £1bn per vessel.
Cost of Royal Navy frigate HMS Iron Duke refit revealed
The service-life extension was the most lengthy of its kind to date and intended to see the vessel through to its decommissioning in 2025.
Varias luces trae este artículo...
HMS Lancaster el próximo año y HMS Iron Duke el subsiguiente.
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Ambas flamantes y con equipamiento completo.HMS Iron Duke ayer
El HMS Kent en fase final de modernización
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Con el tema ruso-ucraniano muy difícil que adelanten bajas.
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Buenas, la Montrose y la Monmouth apenas para reciclar
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Estamos más amiguis que nunca con UK, no te creas.
Buenas, la Montrose y la Monmouth apenas para reciclar
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Sorprendente que manden la MONTROSE a reciclaje/scrap, habiendo sido modernizada en electrónica y renovada su planta motriz hace nada (completada en julio 2021, para darla de baja como reciclaje en 2023). Algo debió haber tenido el casco ¿molido? que no la quisieron proyectar más a pesar de las reparaciones. El que no haya encontrado comprador también es un indicio.
June 25, 2021
Duqm Naval Dockyard completes double engine replacement for HMS Montrose
The double engine replacement was carried out at Asyad dry dock facility at Duqm, Oman.
The replacement activities were executed at Asyad dry dock facility at Duqm in Oman. Credit: Babcock International Group/MOD.
Babcock International and ASYAD joint venture Drydock Duqm Naval Dockyard (DND) has completed a double engine replacement for the UK Royal Navy’s Type 23 Duke-class frigate, HMS Montrose.
It is said to be first-of-its-kind activity completed by DND for the Royal Navy in the Middle East.
According to Babcock, the double engine replacement enabled the Royal Navy ‘to sustain operations within the region’.
The effort was performed as part of an extensive fleet time support programme (FTSP) at the Asyad dry dock facility in Duqm, Oman.
In January, DND successfully completed a FTSP for the ship.
Babcock Marine Sector chief executive Will Erith said: “Once again, our Joint Venture team has supported the Royal Navy in Oman, delivering an on time, to cost comprehensive maintenance programme, including the first Forward Auxiliary Machinery Room double engine replacement in the Middle East.
“Our global support approach underpins the service we deliver whenever, wherever our customers require.”
DND team also stripped back HMS Montrose’s flight deck and completely repainted it.
Furthermore, DND completed funnel cowling repairs, as well as built and tested a new, main shaft seal cofferdam.
All these activities took an eleven-week repair period to complete.
Babcock said that these activities were completed with strict Covid working protocols in place and challenging temperatures.
HMS Montrose commanding officer commander Collins said: “As the Royal Navy continues to maintain a forward presence around the globe, utilising Duqm as an engineering and logistical hub has provided an outstanding opportunity to conduct improvements and upgrades to HMS Montrose.
“It ensures we can sustain operations at reach from the UK and reinforces our strong relationship with Oman.”
Duqm Naval Dockyard completes double engine replacement for HMS Montrose
Babcock International and ASYAD joint venture Drydock Duqm Naval Dockyard (DND) has completed a double engine replacement for the UK Royal Navy’s Type 23 Duke-class frigate HMS Montrose.
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