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Hoot: ésto es sólo una parte de lo que ha tomado estado público y hay que sacar muchas cuentas, pero tenés para divertirte un largo rato.....
PD: Tengo entendido que el Gripen DK ofrecido llevaría los Brimstone, JDAM, Meteor y Iris-T, aunque Dinamarca ya dijo que quiere los AIM-9X.
Lockheed Martin Corp., Tactical Aircraft Systems, Ft Worth, Texas, was awarded on 16 December 2005, a $14,300,000 firm fixed price contract. This acquisition is for provisioning spares of sole source consumable and replenishment spares in support of the F-16 Program. There are no known items or quantity identified at the time of award. As new changes and program evolve the items and quantity will be identified and modified on to the contract as ELINS. This effort supports foreign military sales to Greece, Taiwan, Chile, Jordan and Oman. At this time no funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by March 2007. Solicitations and negotiations were completed in December 2005. The Headquarters Ogden Air Logistics Center, Hill Air Force Base, Utah, is the contracting activity. (FA8212-06-C-0011).
BAE Systems Information and Electronic Systems Inc., Greenlawn, N.Y., is being awarded a $15,455,294 modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract (N00019-05-D-0027) to exercise an option for the procurement of up to 63 AN/APX-117(V) and 293 AN/APX-118(V) Common Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) Digital Transponder (CXP) systems; and 100 AN/APX-118(V) spares and associated equipment and services for the U.S. Navy, U.S. Army, Special Operations Command, U.S. Coast Guard, and for the Governments of Germany, Norway, Japan, Korea, Greece, and Chile under the Foreign Military Sales Program. This will include the manufacturing, testing, modification, and delivery of the transponder systems for use on both ships and airborne weapon system platforms, as well as production engineering services, logistics support services, and documentation updates. Work will be performed in Greenlawn, N.Y., and is expected to be completed in December 2007. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity
Defenselink -- 28 April 2006) Marvin Engineering Co., Inc., Inglewood, Calif., is being awarded a $5,590,000 firm fixed price contract to provide for LAU-117 (V3) launchers used with maverick missile. This effort support foreign military sales to Chile, Poland, Taiwan, and Oman. At this time, total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by June 2007. Headquarters Ogden Air Logistics Center, Hill Air Force Base, Utah, is the contracting activity. (FA8213-06-C-0025)
(Defenselink -- 6 February 2006) BAE Systems Information and Electronic Systems Inc., Greenlawn, N.Y., is being awarded a $15,455,294 modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract (N00019-05-D-0027) to exercise an option for the procurement of up to 63 AN/APX-117(V) and 293 AN/APX-118(V) Common Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) Digital Transponder (CXP) systems; and 100 AN/APX-118(V) spares and associated equipment and services for the U.S. Navy, U.S. Army, Special Operations Command, U.S. Coast Guard, and for the Governments of Germany, Norway, Japan, Korea, Greece, and Chile under the Foreign Military Sales Program. This will include the manufacturing, testing, modification, and delivery of the transponder systems for use on both ships and airborne weapon system platforms, as well as production engineering services, logistics support services, and documentation updates. Work will be performed in Greenlawn, N.Y., and is expected to be completed in December 2007. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity.
(Defenselink -- January 13, 2004) The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Mo., is being awarded a $37,316,140 firm fixed price, cost-plus fixed-fee contract. This is the definitization modification of a letter contract and partial incremental change orders (modifications 001801, and 001802) for Low Rate Initial Production 4 (LRIP 4) of the joint helmet mounted cueing system procured for the USAF F-15, and F-16, the Navy F/A-18 platforms, and Foreign Military Sales countries. This effort supports foreign military sales Chile, Poland, Royal Australian Air Force and Finland. At this time, $54,902,769 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be complete by December 2005. Solicitation began June 2003 and Negotiations were completed July 2003. The Headquarters Air Force Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (F33657-01-D-0026, 001803).
(Defenselink -- 12 August 2005) ITT Avionics, Clifton, N.J., is being awarded a $6,412,222 firm fixed price, time and materials contract modification. This requirement is for the Foreign Military Sale of ALQ-211 (V)4 Advanced Integrated Defense Electronic Warfare System spares to the Countries of Chile and Oman. This Electronic Warfare System is used on F-16 aircraft. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by June 2008. Solicitation began November 2003, and negotiations were completed December 2003. The Headquarters Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, Robins Air Force Base, Ga., is the contracting activity (FA8523-02-C-0282-P00010).
(Defenselink -- August 09, 2002) Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, was awarded a $10,800,000 firm-fixed-price contract to provide for incorporation of Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare System for the Oman and Chile F-16 Aircraft Programs under the Falcon 2020 Delivery order contract F42620-01-D-0058, SC08. This effort supports foreign military sales to Oman and Chile. At this time, $4,382,500 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be completed by July 2006. Solicitation began May 2002 and negotiations were completed July 2002. The Aeronautical Systems Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity.
Defenselink -- 12 August 2005) ITT Avionics, Clifton, N.J., is being awarded a $6,412,222 firm fixed price, time and materials contract modification. This requirement is for the Foreign Military Sale of ALQ-211 (V)4 Advanced Integrated Defense Electronic Warfare System spares to the Countries of Chile and Oman. This Electronic Warfare System is used on F-16 aircraft. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by June 2008. Solicitation began November 2003, and negotiations were completed December 2003. The Headquarters Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, Robins Air Force Base, Ga., is the contracting activity (FA8523-02-C-0282-P00010).
(Defenselink -- 7 April 2005) MacAulay-Brown, Dayton, Ohio, is being awarded a $4,054,270 indefinite delivery/Indefinite quantity, cost-plus award-fee and cost reimbursement contract modification to provide a wide range of diverse non-engineering, technical and acquisition management support required in the acquisition, development, production, and support of various equipment and weapon systems within the Air Armament Center and other organizations at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. This effort supports foreign military sales to Australia, Belgium, Canada, Chile, Denmark, Israel, Korea, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, and United Arab Emirates. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by September 2005. The Headquarters Air Armament Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (F08635-00-C-0040, P00038).
(Defenselink -- 16 December 2004) Business Technologies and Solutions, Beavercreek, Ohio, and COLSA Corp., Huntsville, Ala., are being awarded a $190,948,127 indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity contract to provide for the Technical and Acquisition Management Support Program and a wide range of diverse non-engineering, technical and acquisition management support required in the acquisition, development, production, and support of various equipment and weapon systems within the Air Armament Center at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. and various other tenant organizations. The Air Force can issue delivery orders totaling up to the maximum amount indicated above, although actual requirements may necessitate less than the amount above. This effort supports foreign military sales to the following countries, Australia, Bahrain, Belgium, Canaga, Chile, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Saudia Arabia, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and United Kingdom. Contractor employees are co-located with Government personnel. At this time, $298,386 of the funds has been obligated. This work will be complete by April 2010. Solicitation began June 2004 and negotiations were completed October 2004. The Headquarters Air Armament Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA9200-05-C-0002—0003).
(Defenselink -- August 12, 2002) ITT Corp., ITT Avionics Division, Clifton, N.J., is being awarded a $51,653,708 firm-fixed price, time and materials contract to provide for the Foreign Military Sale of the ALQ-211 (V)4, Advanced Integrated Defense Electronic Warfare System for the countries of Chile and Oman. This Electronic Warfare system will be used on F-16 Aircraft being procured under separate acquisitions for these countries by the F-16 System Program office. Ten systems are being acquired for Chile and 12 systems are being acquired for Oman. Associated spares support equipment, training, engineering services, flight test support, and data are being acquired for the systems also. At this time, $38,740,281 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be complete by March 2009. Negotiations were completed August 2002. The Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, Robins Air Force Base, Ga., is the contracting activity (F09603-02-C-0282).
(Defenselink -- 18 June 2004) Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $15,705,981 firm fixed price contract to provide for the purchase of developmental support equipment and country standard technical orders for the Peace Puma Program. This effort supports foreign military sales to Chile. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by July 2007. Solicitation began March 2003 and negotiations were completed April 2004. The Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (F33657-02-C-2017).
The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Mo., is being awarded a $37,316,140 firm fixed price, cost-plus fixed-fee contract. This is the definitization modification of a letter contract and partial incremental change orders (modifications 001801, and 001802) for Low Rate Initial Production 4 (LRIP 4) of the joint helmet mounted cueing system procured for the USAF F-15, and F-16, the Navy F/A-18 platforms, and Foreign Military Sales countries. This effort supports foreign military sales Chile, Poland, Royal Australian Air Force and Finland. At this time, $54,902,769 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be complete by December 2005. Solicitation began June 2003 and Negotiations were completed July 2003. The Headquarters Air Force Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (F33657-01-D-0026, 001803).
PD: yo te avisé que hay que tener paciencia y una calculadora a mano...
PD: Tengo entendido que el Gripen DK ofrecido llevaría los Brimstone, JDAM, Meteor y Iris-T, aunque Dinamarca ya dijo que quiere los AIM-9X.
Lockheed Martin Corp., Tactical Aircraft Systems, Ft Worth, Texas, was awarded on 16 December 2005, a $14,300,000 firm fixed price contract. This acquisition is for provisioning spares of sole source consumable and replenishment spares in support of the F-16 Program. There are no known items or quantity identified at the time of award. As new changes and program evolve the items and quantity will be identified and modified on to the contract as ELINS. This effort supports foreign military sales to Greece, Taiwan, Chile, Jordan and Oman. At this time no funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by March 2007. Solicitations and negotiations were completed in December 2005. The Headquarters Ogden Air Logistics Center, Hill Air Force Base, Utah, is the contracting activity. (FA8212-06-C-0011).
BAE Systems Information and Electronic Systems Inc., Greenlawn, N.Y., is being awarded a $15,455,294 modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract (N00019-05-D-0027) to exercise an option for the procurement of up to 63 AN/APX-117(V) and 293 AN/APX-118(V) Common Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) Digital Transponder (CXP) systems; and 100 AN/APX-118(V) spares and associated equipment and services for the U.S. Navy, U.S. Army, Special Operations Command, U.S. Coast Guard, and for the Governments of Germany, Norway, Japan, Korea, Greece, and Chile under the Foreign Military Sales Program. This will include the manufacturing, testing, modification, and delivery of the transponder systems for use on both ships and airborne weapon system platforms, as well as production engineering services, logistics support services, and documentation updates. Work will be performed in Greenlawn, N.Y., and is expected to be completed in December 2007. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity
Defenselink -- 28 April 2006) Marvin Engineering Co., Inc., Inglewood, Calif., is being awarded a $5,590,000 firm fixed price contract to provide for LAU-117 (V3) launchers used with maverick missile. This effort support foreign military sales to Chile, Poland, Taiwan, and Oman. At this time, total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by June 2007. Headquarters Ogden Air Logistics Center, Hill Air Force Base, Utah, is the contracting activity. (FA8213-06-C-0025)
(Defenselink -- 6 February 2006) BAE Systems Information and Electronic Systems Inc., Greenlawn, N.Y., is being awarded a $15,455,294 modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract (N00019-05-D-0027) to exercise an option for the procurement of up to 63 AN/APX-117(V) and 293 AN/APX-118(V) Common Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) Digital Transponder (CXP) systems; and 100 AN/APX-118(V) spares and associated equipment and services for the U.S. Navy, U.S. Army, Special Operations Command, U.S. Coast Guard, and for the Governments of Germany, Norway, Japan, Korea, Greece, and Chile under the Foreign Military Sales Program. This will include the manufacturing, testing, modification, and delivery of the transponder systems for use on both ships and airborne weapon system platforms, as well as production engineering services, logistics support services, and documentation updates. Work will be performed in Greenlawn, N.Y., and is expected to be completed in December 2007. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity.
(Defenselink -- January 13, 2004) The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Mo., is being awarded a $37,316,140 firm fixed price, cost-plus fixed-fee contract. This is the definitization modification of a letter contract and partial incremental change orders (modifications 001801, and 001802) for Low Rate Initial Production 4 (LRIP 4) of the joint helmet mounted cueing system procured for the USAF F-15, and F-16, the Navy F/A-18 platforms, and Foreign Military Sales countries. This effort supports foreign military sales Chile, Poland, Royal Australian Air Force and Finland. At this time, $54,902,769 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be complete by December 2005. Solicitation began June 2003 and Negotiations were completed July 2003. The Headquarters Air Force Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (F33657-01-D-0026, 001803).
(Defenselink -- 12 August 2005) ITT Avionics, Clifton, N.J., is being awarded a $6,412,222 firm fixed price, time and materials contract modification. This requirement is for the Foreign Military Sale of ALQ-211 (V)4 Advanced Integrated Defense Electronic Warfare System spares to the Countries of Chile and Oman. This Electronic Warfare System is used on F-16 aircraft. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by June 2008. Solicitation began November 2003, and negotiations were completed December 2003. The Headquarters Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, Robins Air Force Base, Ga., is the contracting activity (FA8523-02-C-0282-P00010).
(Defenselink -- August 09, 2002) Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, was awarded a $10,800,000 firm-fixed-price contract to provide for incorporation of Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare System for the Oman and Chile F-16 Aircraft Programs under the Falcon 2020 Delivery order contract F42620-01-D-0058, SC08. This effort supports foreign military sales to Oman and Chile. At this time, $4,382,500 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be completed by July 2006. Solicitation began May 2002 and negotiations were completed July 2002. The Aeronautical Systems Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity.
Defenselink -- 12 August 2005) ITT Avionics, Clifton, N.J., is being awarded a $6,412,222 firm fixed price, time and materials contract modification. This requirement is for the Foreign Military Sale of ALQ-211 (V)4 Advanced Integrated Defense Electronic Warfare System spares to the Countries of Chile and Oman. This Electronic Warfare System is used on F-16 aircraft. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by June 2008. Solicitation began November 2003, and negotiations were completed December 2003. The Headquarters Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, Robins Air Force Base, Ga., is the contracting activity (FA8523-02-C-0282-P00010).
(Defenselink -- 7 April 2005) MacAulay-Brown, Dayton, Ohio, is being awarded a $4,054,270 indefinite delivery/Indefinite quantity, cost-plus award-fee and cost reimbursement contract modification to provide a wide range of diverse non-engineering, technical and acquisition management support required in the acquisition, development, production, and support of various equipment and weapon systems within the Air Armament Center and other organizations at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. This effort supports foreign military sales to Australia, Belgium, Canada, Chile, Denmark, Israel, Korea, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, and United Arab Emirates. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by September 2005. The Headquarters Air Armament Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (F08635-00-C-0040, P00038).
(Defenselink -- 16 December 2004) Business Technologies and Solutions, Beavercreek, Ohio, and COLSA Corp., Huntsville, Ala., are being awarded a $190,948,127 indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity contract to provide for the Technical and Acquisition Management Support Program and a wide range of diverse non-engineering, technical and acquisition management support required in the acquisition, development, production, and support of various equipment and weapon systems within the Air Armament Center at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. and various other tenant organizations. The Air Force can issue delivery orders totaling up to the maximum amount indicated above, although actual requirements may necessitate less than the amount above. This effort supports foreign military sales to the following countries, Australia, Bahrain, Belgium, Canaga, Chile, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Saudia Arabia, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and United Kingdom. Contractor employees are co-located with Government personnel. At this time, $298,386 of the funds has been obligated. This work will be complete by April 2010. Solicitation began June 2004 and negotiations were completed October 2004. The Headquarters Air Armament Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA9200-05-C-0002—0003).
(Defenselink -- August 12, 2002) ITT Corp., ITT Avionics Division, Clifton, N.J., is being awarded a $51,653,708 firm-fixed price, time and materials contract to provide for the Foreign Military Sale of the ALQ-211 (V)4, Advanced Integrated Defense Electronic Warfare System for the countries of Chile and Oman. This Electronic Warfare system will be used on F-16 Aircraft being procured under separate acquisitions for these countries by the F-16 System Program office. Ten systems are being acquired for Chile and 12 systems are being acquired for Oman. Associated spares support equipment, training, engineering services, flight test support, and data are being acquired for the systems also. At this time, $38,740,281 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be complete by March 2009. Negotiations were completed August 2002. The Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, Robins Air Force Base, Ga., is the contracting activity (F09603-02-C-0282).
(Defenselink -- 18 June 2004) Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $15,705,981 firm fixed price contract to provide for the purchase of developmental support equipment and country standard technical orders for the Peace Puma Program. This effort supports foreign military sales to Chile. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete by July 2007. Solicitation began March 2003 and negotiations were completed April 2004. The Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (F33657-02-C-2017).
The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Mo., is being awarded a $37,316,140 firm fixed price, cost-plus fixed-fee contract. This is the definitization modification of a letter contract and partial incremental change orders (modifications 001801, and 001802) for Low Rate Initial Production 4 (LRIP 4) of the joint helmet mounted cueing system procured for the USAF F-15, and F-16, the Navy F/A-18 platforms, and Foreign Military Sales countries. This effort supports foreign military sales Chile, Poland, Royal Australian Air Force and Finland. At this time, $54,902,769 of the funds has been obligated. Further funds will be obligated as individual delivery orders are issued. This work will be complete by December 2005. Solicitation began June 2003 and Negotiations were completed July 2003. The Headquarters Air Force Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (F33657-01-D-0026, 001803).
PD: yo te avisé que hay que tener paciencia y una calculadora a mano...
spirit666 dijo:
Bueno, a los gripen le puedes enchufar practicamente cualquier armamento,
me huele a que los daneses terminaran aceptando al Gripen, considerando el
tiempo y los recursos que significan los F35.
spirit666 dijo:PD: yo te avisé que hay que tener paciencia y una calculadora a mano...
guardare la info para una noche de insomnio... gracias :)
spirit666 dijo:PD: yo te avisé que hay que tener paciencia y una calculadora a mano...
... E información adicional, por que de los contratos que citas, todos son entre más de un país y no se especifica que porcentaje del contrato paga cada país
De la lista de contratos mencionados (un par repetidos con otra redacción, como el por los 63 AN/APX-117(V) y 293 AN/APX-118(V)), el único del que se podría inferir cuanto pagó Chile es el de los ALQ-211 (V)4, y eso ...
Saludos
Hoot dijo:pero seamos justos, hasta donde entendi por lo que me contaron ustedes, el simplemente se refirio a un estudio realizado por algun grupo de asesores no?
obviamente, el es quien lo lee, pero en mi opinion, son tanto o mas culpables
los que realizaron dicho informe.
Tengo entendido que oficialmente no hubo ningún informe, y el tipo no necesitaba asesores, las macanas se las mandaba solo tal como cuando en TV dijo que para renovar los Mirage había que sacarse la lotería... otra frase muy poco felíz para el jefe de un arma.
PD: Red_Star yo mencioné que ésos contratos "eran sólo una parte", y muchos no han tomado estado público. Según me han soplado serían cerca de 65 contratos en total, la mayoría de los cuales son "Reservados".
M
mendogroso
jajajaja no se purde negar que Schiaffino era medio ******, pero el tipo era simpatico, no cualquiera se atreveria a largar las semejantes zanguangadas que largaba el. 
Es decir, 1200M de dólares por 10 aviones,... me da......
Ya,.... no califica, xq nadie en Argentina transferiría 1200M por 10
aviones esta fuera de todo presupuesto, asi la soja este a 600u$s la Tn.
Gracias Claudio, 1200 millones y xq no se compraron unos F-22s,......
1200 millones,.......
....
Ya,.... no califica, xq nadie en Argentina transferiría 1200M por 10
aviones esta fuera de todo presupuesto, asi la soja este a 600u$s la Tn.
Gracias Claudio, 1200 millones y xq no se compraron unos F-22s,......
1200 millones,.......
....
M
mendogroso
QUIIIIIIIIIIII MIG-25 CON YAKHONTSnAkE_OnE dijo:
Hoot dijo:pero seamos justos, hasta donde entendi por lo que me contaron ustedes,
el simplemente se refirio a un estudio realizado por algun grupo de asesores no?
obviamente, el es quien lo lee, pero en mi opinion, son tanto o mas culpables
los que realizaron dicho informe.
Amigo Hoot, todo es cuestion de coherencia. Otros paises han operado los F-16 en condiciones mucho mas rigurosas que las que existen en la patagonia, y ninguno puso de excusa las mismas para no desplegar los aparatos. Si Schiaffino dijo lo que dijo tras leer un informe, su responsabilidad es directa y unica pues se hallaba en la cima de una cadena jerárquica. A él le correspondía analizar con detenimiento lo que le informaba y no retransmitir semejante información. Si dijo lo de las piedritas sin el respaldo de un informe entonces ademas de inchoerente es un asno pues, del F-16 y de sus operaciones conocía poco y nada.
Un saludo
¿Aja y que clase de infraestructura poseen?¿Que procedimientos hay que seguir para operar correctamente el avion el zonas de viento con posibles fod?
¿no hay aviones mas adecuados para eso? (Nosotros no tenemos plata para infraestructura)
¿no hay aviones mas adecuados para eso? (Nosotros no tenemos plata para infraestructura)
spirit666 dijo:
Claro que son solo una parte. El pero es que si hay contratos son "reservados" y no han tomado estado público, ¿Como se saben sus montos para añadirlos a la suma? ¿Como se sabe que no son subcontratos de, por ejemplo, el contrato con LM?
Tu más atrás decías que "aunque siempre se niega esta cifra sólo hay que tomarse el trabajo de buscar todos los contratos firmados desde el 2002 y tener una buena calculadora a mano". El problema es que con contratos múltiples paises participantes en los que se especifica que porción del total corresponde a cada país, más supuestos "contratos reservados"; si no quires tomar como real la cifra que da el Gobierno Chileno como costo del programa, más que paciencia para navegar en la página de la DCSA y una calculadora, necesitas o dotes de adivinación o contactos confiables dentro de los altos niveles directivos del programa...
Saludos
Pero no vale la pena discutir por eso, si hay versiones por ahi que incluso
señalan que los 10 vipers superaron los 2mil millones...
Para mi siempre sera un misterio los costos de los SdA, yo por lo menos
no puedo decir que es mentira que costaron 600, mil, 2 mil, por que
nadie puede tener 100% segura esa data. Asi que si para alguien costo eso,
pues se le respeta y punto.
Podemos decir muchas cosas, pero no tienen por que convencer a quien
presenta otro datos, el punto es que los pajaros esos son caros, que tan
caros son, ni idea... por lo menos yo... y peor todavia con la FACh, que son
muy reservados con su informacion.
señalan que los 10 vipers superaron los 2mil millones...
Para mi siempre sera un misterio los costos de los SdA, yo por lo menos
no puedo decir que es mentira que costaron 600, mil, 2 mil, por que
nadie puede tener 100% segura esa data. Asi que si para alguien costo eso,
pues se le respeta y punto.
Podemos decir muchas cosas, pero no tienen por que convencer a quien
presenta otro datos, el punto es que los pajaros esos son caros, que tan
caros son, ni idea... por lo menos yo... y peor todavia con la FACh, que son
muy reservados con su informacion.
jedi-knigth dijo:
El gasto en infraestructura se va a tener sea que se opere un F-16, un F-18, un M-2000 o un Su-30 por citar algunos ejemplos. si se recurre al argumento de que no hay plata para infraestructura, entonces no hay que pensarlo más y a buscarse biplanos de la primera guerra mundial. Además, y si no estoy equivocado, las bases aéreas de la Republica Argentina no solo estan ubicadas en la patagonia.
Un saludo
No pero alli tenes el 50 Por ciento del territorio con importantes recurso y las dos principales hipotesis de conflicto nada mas y nada menos (No me salgan con eso de que el estado oficialmente no tiene hipotesis de conflicto)
¿Estas seguro que todos los aviones que mencionas se las arreglan igual con pistas en pobres condiciones? ¿Todos ellos requieren el mismo esfuerzo para operar correctamente? Por ejemplo se ha comentado en el foro que es un procedimiento normal despejar la pista de cualquier objeto para evitar el riesgo de FOD pero por ejemplo los A4 operan sin este procedimiento. ¿Con el F16 que pasa si no lo hacemos asi? Ya sabemos que en el nuevo plan se privilegia el despliegue rapido con algunas pistas centrales y lugares de operacion alternativos a lo largo de todo el pais.
¿Estas seguro que todos los aviones que mencionas se las arreglan igual con pistas en pobres condiciones? ¿Todos ellos requieren el mismo esfuerzo para operar correctamente? Por ejemplo se ha comentado en el foro que es un procedimiento normal despejar la pista de cualquier objeto para evitar el riesgo de FOD pero por ejemplo los A4 operan sin este procedimiento. ¿Con el F16 que pasa si no lo hacemos asi? Ya sabemos que en el nuevo plan se privilegia el despliegue rapido con algunas pistas centrales y lugares de operacion alternativos a lo largo de todo el pais.
Pero ese riesgo no solamente se puede atribuir a piedras, los objetos
pueden ser perfectamente aves, cosa que no es nueva y por lejos mas
peligroso que una piedra.
El asunto es que se debe desarrollar un mecanismo para prevenir cualquier FOD,
eso se hace incluso en cubiertas de portaviones y portaeronaves, es un riesgo
presente en todos lados.
Atlantic Ocean (Oct. 29, 2006) - Sailors aboard the multipurpose amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1) conduct a FOD walkdown prior to launching aircraft. During the walkdown, each Sailor concentrates on looking for small object (FOD) that could be sucked into an engine, creating Foreign Object Damage. Wasp is on the way back to Norfolk, completing a surge deployment in support of Joint Task Force Lebanon. U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Craig P. Strawser (RELEASED)
pueden ser perfectamente aves, cosa que no es nueva y por lejos mas
peligroso que una piedra.
El asunto es que se debe desarrollar un mecanismo para prevenir cualquier FOD,
eso se hace incluso en cubiertas de portaviones y portaeronaves, es un riesgo
presente en todos lados.
Atlantic Ocean (Oct. 29, 2006) - Sailors aboard the multipurpose amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1) conduct a FOD walkdown prior to launching aircraft. During the walkdown, each Sailor concentrates on looking for small object (FOD) that could be sucked into an engine, creating Foreign Object Damage. Wasp is on the way back to Norfolk, completing a surge deployment in support of Joint Task Force Lebanon. U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Craig P. Strawser (RELEASED)
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